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Oct 5, 2012 11:00pm PDT
. >> they're two of the most well-recognized journalists in the united states. pioneers and advocates. for more than two decades maria and george have informed million of hispanics through the popular evening newscast. their brand of journalism is characterized not only by subjective and perspectives, but also by a high degree of social advocacy. in the last three decades both have covered a wide range of news and have witnessed history in the making. >> mexico, oh, yes. >> from presidential elections around the world to the most destructive natural disasters. maria has interviewed dictators, revolutionaries, world leaders, heads of state in latin america, and in the united states. she was among the first female journalists to report from the war torn streets of baghdad. george has covered five wars and right after the terrorists attack on september 11th he drove all the way from miami to new york to report on the tragedy firsthand. once he even asked for a vacation to cover the war in afghanistan. an assignment that at the time the network deemed too dangerous. he's had very public encoun
PBS
Oct 5, 2012 7:00pm PDT
the crisis from escalating. >>> employment figures in the united states show improvements in september as the presidential campaign heats up in the country. the news could provide a boost to president barack obama. u.s. labor department officials say the u.s. jobless rate dropped to 7.8% in september. the figure is the lowest since obama took office in january 2009. employers added 114,000 nonfarm jobs, matching the expectations of analysts. the nonfarm sector is considered particularly sensitive to economic trends. 44,000 jobs were added in the health care sector. manufacturing employment edged down, shedding 16,000 jobs. >>> policymakers at japan's central bank unanimously decided to maintain current monetary policy. this comes after the rare attendance by the economic and fiscal policy minister. seiji maehara has been advocating aggressive monetary easing to get the economy out of deflation. after the two-day meeting through friday, the policymakers shared the view that personal spending remains steady as the jobs situation is improving. but they agreed that output and exp
CSPAN
Oct 6, 2012 8:45am EDT
want to know about a country look at the map of the united states in terms of the harbors from the east coast of the united states, the 13 colonies jam packed with natural harbors. the coast of africa collectively few good natural harbors but the east coast was packed with them and the continental corporation of the u.s. was the last resource rich part of the ten per zone the european enlightenment with inland waterways flowing in a convenient east west fashion than the west the caressed combined and our ideas and dhaka sees but because of where we happen to live as well that's why these things matter. why these things matter. they've allowed india and china to develop into the completely distinct great worlds of civilization we have much to do with each other through long periods of history. >> let's take that image that you've offered of america, this place with all these great natural harbors and rivers that run the right way but that was true for thousands of years and didn't leave it to the development of what we think of as the united states. it wasn't until the european civi
CSPAN
Oct 6, 2012 6:00am EDT
running for a second term as president of the united states! [cheers and applause] i have seen too much pain, seen too much struggle to let this country get hit with another round of top-down economics. one of the main reasons we had this crisis is because big banks on wall street were allowed to make big bets with other people's money and governor romney wants to roll back the rules we put in place to stop that behavior? that's not going to happen. that is not going to happen. [applause] one of the main reasons record surpluses under bill clinton were turned into record deficits under george bush is because we put two wars and two tax cuts on a credit card. and now governor romney wants another $5 trillion in tax cuts that he can't pay for? not if i have anything to say about it. that's not going to happen. [applause] we are not going to let this country fall backward. not now. not with so much at stake. we've got to move forward. we need to invest in small business and manufacturers who create jobs here in the united states. we need to recruit 100,000 math and science teachers, train
CSPAN
Oct 6, 2012 7:00pm EDT
. troops are deployed pre-emptively to protect the united states. that's part of a track record that goes back to the 1970's when he ran for congress the first time and said troops should not be deployed without u.n. approval. then in the mid 1980's, he ran on the basis of cutting most of our major defense programs. in 1991, he voted against desert storm. it's a consistent pattern over time of always being on the wrong side of defense issues. a little tough talk in the midst of a campaign or as part of a presidential debate cannot obscure a record of 30 years of being on the wrong side of defense issues. and they give absolute no ibbed case based on that record of being willing to go forward and aggressively pursue the war on terror with the kind of strategy that will defeat our enemies and will guarantee the united states doesn't get attacked by the likes of al qaeda. >> we'll get back to that topic. tonight we mentioned afghanistan. we believe that osama bin laden is hiding perhaps in a cave somewhere along the afghan-pakistan border. if you get a second term, what is your plan to
CNN
Oct 5, 2012 11:00pm PDT
hospital on wednesday. >>> a radical islamist cleric is on the way to the united states after losing his latest and final appeal to avoid that fate. judge john thomas said the extradition may proceed immediately. some of the supporters clashed with police outside of the high court. he faces 11 charges in the united states, including conspiring in 1999 to set up an islam jihad training camp in oregon. rebel fighters shot down a helicopter over the the damascus country side. this video supposedly shows. cnn cannot verify its authenticity. another opposition group known as the local coordination committees for syria says 110 were killed by syrian forces across the country just today. former university of tennessee basketball coach pat summitt says she was not forced out of her job after being diagnosed with dementia. she says anyone who knows me knows that any such effort would have been met with resistance -- as the head coach of the lady vols. >>> it has been 428 days since the u.s. lost its top credit rating. what are we doing to get it back? the federal deficit has hit $1.1 trillion
SFGTV
Oct 5, 2012 7:30pm PDT
support and defend the constitution of the united states and the constitution of the state of california against all enemies foreign and domestic, that i will bear true faith and allegiance to the constitution of the united states and the constitution of the state of california, that i take this obligation freely, without any mental reservation or purpose of evasion, and that i will well and faithfully discharge the duties upon which i am about to enter during such time as i hold the office of -- for the city and county of san francisco. congratulations. thank you very much. [applause] thank you, all. our class of commissioners for 2012. 14 commissions. thank you very much. i'm derek, i'm hyungry, and ready to eat. these vendors offer a variety of the streets near you. these mobile restaurants are serving up original, creative and unusual combinations. you can grab something simple like a grilled cheese sandwich or something unique like curry. we areher here in the average eight -- upper haight. you will be competing in the quick buy food challenge. an appetizer and if you are the winner
CSPAN
Oct 6, 2012 5:30pm EDT
thing i ever heard of my life. you are accusing the president of united states of using a government program to manipulate people do not get a job, to be dependent on the government for services? >> i'm impressed. we are a few minutes and -- >> let me finish. >> i am impressed. we are a few minutes in and you have now three times called me crazy on observing that the president has expanded government dependency. >> you are saying he is manipulating american so they will vote democratic. >> let's talk about the issue of benefits. in 1960, 20% -- of federal spending went to individual payments. this year, 65% of federal spending goes to individual payments. i would suggest we do have a problem with government -- >> we had a downturn in the economy. we have hard times, people looking for work and not able to find jobs. >> 65% of federal spending going to individual payments. it may not sound good, but we have created a welfare state. >> to blame it all on president obama is even worse. to declare the president of the united states is manipulating so people will stay and vote
WHUT
Oct 6, 2012 10:00am EDT
community in the united states does not speak english. how big a barrier is language as you mentioned? >> that's pretty high. >> i think for the youth they speak english it's really interesting because they're the ones translating for their parents. in terms that you have a lot of those that come from latin america, when you look at the politics of latin america they equate politicians to corruption, it is what they do. the idea of having to deal with politics coming tolt united states not necessarily that's like for second nature. they would prefer to not have to go along, work with -- go to school, do what they have to do. they're such a voice and part of our united states that we need them to get more involved in that. >> i think that -- does it make sense for candidates to be fighting so hard, clearly -- >> i'm saying if only ten out of 24 million latinos go to the polls. >> as hard as they fight for young people to go to the polls, i know that as democrats we're counting on high turn out among latinos, among african americans and high turn out 'young young people. i don't think t
FOX News
Oct 6, 2012 10:30am EDT
the united states, whoa, that's a big problem. >> does that fear that a lot of people may share what charlie translate to people, saying, you know what i'm going to pour the money into mitt romney. >> i'm not convinced just not convinced. i think he was really appealing, if you were on the sidelines and in the middle you may be persuaded and i think that he pushed back, you know, the people most critical of romney was g.o.p. talking heads. >> republicans. >> yeah, they ripped him. now, they see him in there. >> for good reason. but they put them in their place now and that probably is the best outcome for him. >> and what mitt romney at least listened to his critics. the scary thing about president obama, four years in office and he doesn't listen. >> adam, want to go to you for the last word. >> well, mitt romney's had a lot of critics, you have to listen when it's in your own party as gerri was saying and the republican party was like, it's like some sort of weird sort of thing, and personality and-- >> and everyone agrees. >> i don't disagree, charlie. >> let me tell you everyone
SFGTV
Oct 6, 2012 12:30pm PDT
united states military. san francisco fleetwood association is a nonprofit all volunteer organization that was formed to help organize and execute fleet week. and fleet week in 2012 like 2011 and 2010 has adopted a mission to promote the humanitarian assistance and disaster response missions of the united states military. we also, of course, will have the blue angels and the air show that comes with that. the ships will be coming in and the wonderful liberty call that the wonderful men and women in the armed forces will have in san francisco. the fleet week association also, as i say, has a humanitarian and response. along with the civilian disaster response community, we'll have a senior leader seminar taking place on thursday and friday in which the military and the civilian community learn from one another on how to provide disaster response. i should mention that on wednesday morning out at ocean beach, the marine corps and the navy are setting up what's called the shock trauma platoon, a field hospital you and i might think of as a mass unit. and coming into ocean beach in cooper
PBS
Oct 6, 2012 11:30am PDT
. the idea of having to deal with politics coming tolt united states not necessarily that's like for second nature. they would prefer to not have to go along, work with -- go to school, do what they have to do. they're such a voice and part of our united states that we need them to get more involved in that. >> i think that -- does it make sense for candidates to be fighting so hard, clearly -- >> i'm saying if only ten out of 24 million latinos go to the polls. >> as hard as they fight for young people to go to the polls, i know that asemrats we're counting on high turn out among latinos, among african americans and high turn out 'young young people. i don't think that's prong to look another these demographics say, what is it that appeals to them? why do we want them to vote make that compelling argument. people will vote, latinos will vote as well as others. >> if they can realize like hispanic unemployment rate is up to -- it's up 10%. just staying up there, just stagnant. these are issues that affect them. the economy, things dealing with like family values that are important. t
FOX Business
Oct 6, 2012 10:00am EDT
million worth of money, which the united states government doesn't have that we borrowed from the chinese to give it to them. big board, if they were a for-profit entity, could still what they do for public broadcasting. the president talks about a new american patriotism, but maybe the new american patriotism is giving the private money and as they already are doing of characters and products. i mean, you know, we took our kids to sesame street shows in the communities and neighborhoods where we bought tickets, and you can buy sesame street characters for the kids. use that -- lou: marketing for big board and sesame street. my goodness, who would have thought. thank you for being here. >> you bet. lou: more on the presidential rate here with the a-team. stay with us. obamacare unplugged and extraordinary woman sums up the president's signature achievement in a long entertaining, remarkably accurate sentence. >> for those of you who might not guess, i will not read every page here, but this is the short version of obamacare. it's like 1100 pages, and i'll tell how many is original
PBS
Oct 6, 2012 4:00pm PDT
. >> fracking has been used in the united states for decades, and it was developed quite a long time ago to do exactly what we do now with the natural gas. >> well, not exactly. frackers used to just drill straight down. >> and they've now turned the drill bit at a 90-degree angle once it's hit the bottom. >> that's called "horizontal fracking." some claim this might actually cause small earthquakes. another issue is what's being pumped into the rock to force out the gas. new mixes of sand, water and chemicals are being used. critics claim those mixes may be more dangerous. >> ♪ with names like benzene and formaldehyde ♪ ♪ you better keep it far away from the water supply ♪ >> these companies are using highly toxic and, in some cases, chemicals that are known human carcinogens, which means chemicals that cause cancer. >> some believe that fracking too close to schools is causing problems. >> in states all across this country, where kids are coming home from school after playing during recess or during after-school sports practices, complaining of severe headaches, nausea, the
CSPAN
Oct 6, 2012 7:00pm EDT
paper the one published -- is the best selling edition in the united states. he can contributes regularly to the opinion pages of the "the wall street journal," "los angeles times," writes about flicks, and -- politicking and national review among other journals. he's a senior fellow at the claire monththe mission to e ree the principles of the american found ming is the intellectual muscle of the i guess -- mission pings. he teaches in the key fellow programs. the fellows program and the lincoln fellows program. most important he's the editor of the clermont review books. a public cage of the clermont substitute. i encourage you to sib croib. it is the most eloquent and well written attract review of books published in the united states and it is so because it is edited by chairmans kessler. he's been thinking, teaching and write l for conservativism for some time. and he is now down having very liberal if not revolutionary which say he's written a book largely based on president obama's writing speeches and interviews. and set out to understand an explain him as he understands
FOX News
Oct 6, 2012 10:00am PDT
voters go to the polls and decide the next president of the united states. hi, everybody, great to have you here, i'm jamie colby. >> kelly: it's good to have you here, i'm kelly wright and the countdown is on. the race between president obama and governor mitt romney increasingly tightening this weekend. and since wednesday night's big debate as the latest jobs report. and just this morning, governor romney already getting in some more prep time for next week's debate. and before hitting the campaign trail, in the key battle ground state of florida. and senator-- the national correspondent john roberts joins us live now from the city apopka. and the governor is scheduled to attend a rally. tell us about it. >> we've got a little bit after florida thunderstorm popped up and expected to be gone by the time the governor hits the stage here, and travelling on the i-4 corridor where elections are won and lost in florida and even up, rasmussen has romney up by a couple of points and trying to keep the momentum going from the great debate performance and trying to show voters he's not th
CNN
Oct 6, 2012 7:30am EDT
. these are going to be the most important voters in the united states. but, let's look at medicare. you have mitt romney who says, i want to give you vouchers, which i personally don't agree with. but what would you rather have? vouchers or $761 billion cut to pay for obama care? i mean, the -- i would much rather -- >> not a cut in benefits, let's be clear. >> it's really important, though, to understand how would vouchers not empower you to have more control of your health care? i don't think medicare is going to be the deciding factor. i think it's going to be much, much more than that. >> after the debate, our analyst, cnn analyst david gergen had this to say. we have a horse race and we certainly do, no question about it in the state of florida. take a look at this polling with me. latest polling from the "wall street journal" shows a virtual dead heat. you see it there, obama 47% and romney 46%. you know the state better than most. what do you think romney has to do to tip it in his favor in. >> well, here's what he better not do. ten days ago he was behind. he came from behind an
SFGTV
Oct 6, 2012 4:30am PDT
will support and defend the constitution of the united states and the constitution of the state of california against all enemies foreign and domestic, that i will bear true faith and allegiance to the constitution of the united states and the constitution of the state of california, that i take this obligation freely, without any mental reservation or purpose of evasion, and that i will well and faithfully discharge the duties upon which i am about to enter during such time as i hold the office of -- for the city and county of san francisco. congratulations. thank you very much. [applause] thank you, all. our class of commissioners for 2012. 14 commissions. thank you very much. after school at 3. . 30 i hop on the bus and go to work with kids. i didn't realize i was going to get up that early for the rest of my life. >> it's hard to get good jobs. you can get well paid working at restaurants i was making good money that's not my 50 year goal working as a waitress. it would be better to have something to fall back on i wanted something where i would in 10 years accumulate propertie
NBC
Oct 5, 2012 11:00pm PDT
anybody working in the united states pays into medicare and pays federal and state taxes and should be entitled to this treatment. >>> okay, pick your players, the gia giants, eagles. >> and even if you're not a sailor, it is still ease to watch america's cup. there is an exclusive look at today's action. >> reporter: hey, thank you, a big weekend here in the bay area also means a big two days of raising the america's world cup series. the fleet racing today saw terry hutchison take a victory, as well as ben ainsley. but the matchup was great work. on a day where we saw natalie coglin riding with new zealand's team, ben ainsley takes the second week of the round two, cup series, we found the most winning skipper supporting the giants into the post season with the fs logo on his boat. and what looked like victory, it was ruled he had not correctly rounded mark four and thus didn't finish. so thus, the swedish team advances to the finals to take on the crew. the final four and the championship finals of match racing set for saturday on the bay. now keep in mind we will have the fleet fin
NBC
Oct 5, 2012 6:00pm PDT
contractor traveled between the united states, the middle east and europe. he was bit by a mexican bat in march on a visit home to southern contra costa county. the bat was on the ground. when a friend put it 18 bag the victim reached in and was bit. he could have passed rabies on to another human being. >> four people were identified and three people indicated perhaps contact with saliva and those people were offered and chose to receive precautionary treatment. that treatment is five injections in the arm. once people develop symptoms it's too late. it's almost always fatal. >> outside the united states a total of 23 people elected to get treatment for rabies just in case. 59 were interviewed after coming in contact with the man. he traveled to nine countries and died in july in a swiss hospital. >> hayward police shot and killed a suspected car thief after they say he failed to obey orders to show him his hands. this morning a suspicious vehicle was reported to police. the officer who arrived determined it had been stolen. when he approached the man refused to raise his hand and
WHUT
Oct 6, 2012 3:00am EDT
united states so that if they work together they would be able to borrow relatively low-interest rates. so the country he-- countries could take some responsibility for their own debts but the underwriting that debt would be a common-- a commitment. >> because the problem these governments have with the sovereign debt they have is that they have to pay such large interest rates. >> that's right, five, six, seven percent. >> that is the problem we have he's. >> greece went even over that. and one point it was over 15%. so the fact is the debts become unsustainable when the interest rate kicks that high. the second problem they have to have is a common banking framework. because money will leave the banks that are viewed to be in the countries that are weak, go to the countries that are strong, and it will be a downward spiral. >> spanish banks are in trouble. >> the spanish banks are likely to be in very bad trouble. there was an announcement of how much money they need, in the tens of billions of dollar -- euros. but you know, the history has been that over time what is needed te
SFGTV2
Oct 5, 2012 11:00pm PDT
successful convention center in the united states. it's not the largest. but persquare foot, it's the most utilized. per square foot it generated the most hotel nights and most revenue of any convention center in the united states. so it's very significant in terms of economic impact. it's basically full-year round. a lost our groups are outgrowing it and need more space in order to stay in town and this benefits not only the tourist sector, but the business sector. it's no coincide that the apple 5 was unveiled there this week or oracle is having their meeting next week. it's the best way to generate more business. the economic impact of the center is significant. we have calculated that we have lost $2 billion in spending because the building is not big enough and people have left. people that want to meet in san francisco or come back over a regular cycle are not able to meet here because it's too small. so we have to expand and once we do, it will create jobs, revenue and taxes for the city. we have a whole expansion team. it's' private-public partnership. all partnering to make t
CSPAN
Oct 6, 2012 7:00am EDT
cities across the united states. our focus this time around is augusta, maine. not only do you get a sense of meeting the people and learning about individual cities and what makes them interesting, here is a little bit of a preview from tonight's program. [video clip] >> this is the first parish church in brunswick, maine. it is significant to the story of a uncle tom's cabin. in many ways, the story began here. it is here in pew #23 that harriet beecher stowe, by her account, saw the vision of uncle tom being whipped to to death. he is the title character, the hero of her 1852 novel," uncle tom's cabin." the story is that there is -- there was a slave, a good slave, sold by his first kind owner, mr. shelby, and he sold him to pay debts on his plantation through a series of misadventures, you might say, he ends up in the hands of a very unruly owner who is so irritated by him and his goodness that he whips him to death. this is the scene out of which the entire novel gross. harriet beecher stowe came from a group very religious family located in ohio where she grew up. they were a h
SFGTV2
Oct 5, 2012 6:30pm PDT
the women's equality movement in the united states. >> at that time, women were banned from holding property and voting in elections. >> susan b. anthony dedicated her life to reform. >> suffrage in the middle of the 19th century accomplished one goal, it was diametrically opposed to this idea. >> many feared it would be corrupted by politics. >> women in the 19th century had to convince male voters that having the vote would not change anything. that woman would still be devoted to the home, the family, that they would remain pure and innocent, that having the vote would not corrupt them. >> support gradually grew in state and local campaigns. >> leaders like ellen clark sgt come repeatedly stopping these meetings -- , repeatedly stopping these meetings as a politically active figure. doing everything they could to ground the campaign in domesticity. >> despite their efforts, the link made it tough whenever voters were in the big city. a specialist in francisco. >> the problem with san francisco is that women's suffrage as an idea was associated. >> susan b. anthony joined the prov
CNN
Oct 6, 2012 2:00pm PDT
many kids changed their eating habits. sounds like a good marketing plan. something i will change with my own kids this weekend. well, that will wrap thinking up for me. keep the conversation going on twitter, as well. at sanjaygupta cnn. time for a check on the top stories at cnn news room. >>> hello, everyone, i'm don lemon, we're in the cnn news room. we'll get you up to date today, the stories making news this hour. we have new developments on the deadly meningitis outbreak, 64 people, nine states, are infected with meningitis, from the injections of the steroid. now, the plant where it was made is voluntarily shut down, more on the story in about five minutes here. >>> and look what appeared before the judge in new york city. abu masri, born in egypt, finally extradited to the united states from britain. he got a long list of terrorist charges dating back to the '90s. now, masri is a professed admirer of osama bin laden. formal arraignment, on tuesday. >>> and president obama getting a boost on one hand, doing damage control on the other. he is riding high on the unemployment numbers, but also trying to recover from his poorly reviewed showing from his first presential debate, from mitt romney. meanwhile, romney's team claiming a big boost from the debate, saying they raised more than 48 million in the past four hours. >>> the family of a fallen border patrol agent attended an emotional vigil last night in arizona. the fbi says that friendly fire likely killed agent nicholas ivie. another agent was wounded in the incident. the fbi says it is investigating what is going on. but it appears that only the two agents were involved in that gunfire. >>> and an extraordinary trial in vatican city ending with a guilty verdict. the former butler to pope benedict xvi was sentenced to 18 months in prison for stealing confidential documents and passing them on. the vatican says the pope will most likely pardon him. >>> and leaders saying this man killed soldiers before defecting, they heard gunshots before the soldier crossed the heavily armed guard between the two countries. thousands defect each year from north korea. >>> and today, the cdc announc d bacterial meningitis cases were found. dr. sanjay gupta explains how the meningitis cases got started. >> dr., we're talking about fungal meningitis. and it is not as common, we're hearing about the bacteria, treated with antibiotics, or the most common, which is viral meningitis. we typically hear about that on college campuses. fungal meningitis can be very serious, the good news is, it is not always spread easily. you have many getting this form of meningitis in different states over the summer at different types. and later they were able to trace it back to the medication, the type of steroid often used as an injection to treat the back pain, injected into the spinal cord. they will divide the doses into the smaller doses and then send that out to hospitals and clinics. they believe at that point that is where the contamination occurred. they saw the mold in some of the vials. as far as the patients themselves, typically older back patients. most of them had back pain, that is why they received the injections. looking at the symptoms, it could take a while after the injection, up to 28 days or so. mild weakness, it could progress from there, stiff neck, dizziness, headaches, all the symptoms that developed from there, the inflammation around the spinal cord. identify the patients who have had injections, have no more of them. and identify the patients. >>> and five men, all suspected terrorists appearing in federal courtrooms today. one of them was the most high profile radical islamist in the uk. abu masri, all extradited last night. they all face several terrorism charges and fought their extradition from the united kingdom. more from london. >> i am disappointed, because i thought we lived in a democratic country. and we have got the best legal system in the world. and i thought that i will get a fair chance, and abu will get a fair chance, but i'm very disappointed. >> well, a senior fbi official calls the suspects' extradition a major milestone in justice, some of the charges date back into the '90s. >>> and defense secretary leon panetta expressing his disappointment with karzai. karzai wants the u.s. to send weapons and planes to the air force, but leon panetta told them karzai should not be complaining. >> we have lost over 2,000 u.s. men and women. we have lost forces there, and the afghans have lost a large number of their forces in battle. those lives were lost fighting the right enemy, not the wrong enemy. and i think it would be helpful if the president every once in a while expressed his thanks for the sacrifices that have been made by those who have fought and died for afghanistan. rather than criticizing them. >> let's talk a little politics now, you can score one for the obama campaign in ohio. at least every ohio voter can now vote the weekend before the election. the federal judge sided with president obama's campaign and overturned a restriction on early voting that the state republicans had put in place. it would have limited the weekend voting to u.s. military families and people living overseas. >>> and a cap on what many are calling a dismal debate this week. more on the campaign rally. >> reporter: this is the president that most people agreed didn't show up on debate night. animated, forceful and taking shots at his gop opponent. >> governor romney said he would get rid of planned parenthood funding. apparently, this along with big bird is driving the deficits. >> reporter: the campaign rallies and the presidential debates are very different events, but the contrast in body language and the sales pitch is hard to overlook. zingers are back. >> my opponent is trying to do a two-step and re-position. and got an extreme makeover, governor romney was fact-checked by his own campaign. >> reporter: and so was talk about governor romney's mention of the 47% fundraiser, which never came up in the debate. >> we have all said that real change takes time. it certainly can't happen if you're willing to write off half the nation before you take office. >> reporter: many argue that while the president lost on performance at the debate, he won on substance. but his gop opponent, campaigning in virginia, begs to differ. >> i get the chance to ask the president some questions, i think people across the country wanted to ask him these questions. i got a chance to ask why the middle class is so buried in this country, incomes have gone down. price of gasoline has doubled. >> reporter: either way, the president seems to come out with new intensity. and the campaign says they will use a different playbook for the next face to face encounter with governor romney. >> what could the president have done differently? well, of course we'll recalibrate against the mitt romney that showed up. >> governor romney calls his comments completely wrong. but the president wrapping up his remarks in ohio, took a shot saying he wanted to be a president for all americans, singling out the republicans, independents and the tea party. >> all right, dan, want to get you live to apopka, florida, and mitt romney will be speaking there very soon. you see the stage is set. this is called a victory rally for romney. we'll have it for you in the 7:00 hour, but he spent the day early near orlando, florida, of course practicing with the debate rehearsal with senator rob portman. mitt romney will be speaking momentarily in apopka, florida, we'll bring it to you when it happens. >>> and venezuela, a day away from the presidential election, many hitting the road, traveling to one of six offices where they can cast a ballot for president. for the people in florida, it means a road trip to new orleans. volunteers estimate that 7,000 people in florida will cast the ballot in new orleans, but don't see it as a burden. >> it 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clashes between rebels and government troops were also seen in the capital of damascus, and syria's biggest city, aleppo. >>> and more than 30,000 people have been killed in syria's civil war, while another 303,000 have fled the area. and now, two are becoming casualties of war. >> reporter: rich in history and culture, syria is home to some of the world's greatest landmarks and ancient ruins. but now, after 18 months of fighting and civil war, the global heritage fund says that many treasures are being destroyed. the ancient villages of syria were named a heritage site in 2011. the region is home to byzantine villages and monasteries, many of these old ruins were knocked over as seen in the amateur video, possibly used as roadblocks in the fighting. and syria army tanks have moved through region over the landmarks. this was now a tourist destination, now hit by shelling. this has been around since the time of the crusades, considered some of the most preserved military castles from that area. now, this area is used by rebel forces defending themselves against the government's heavy artillery. this location is about 55 kilometers northwest of hama, with the ruins here dating back to the romans and byzantine periods, and the site is known for its ancient columns. the looters took the treasures, selling them. and then there is the older city of aleppo, known for culture and development, and home to the oldest culture in the world, dating back to the 12th century. last week, that market was burned during fierce fighting. precious, ancient treasures, that belong to the world, not just to syria, once preserved and admired. now, some gone forever, destroyed by war. cnn. >>> how much do you need the internet? if being without the web makes you feel a little anxious, well, you may have a mental illness. we'll discuss next. like parmesan crusted shrimp just $14.99. i'm ryan isabell and i sea food differently. is the same frequent heartburn treatment as prilosec otc. now 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[ male announcer ] one pill each morning. 24 hours. zero heartburn. satisfaction guaranteed or your money back. . >>> well, the bible used by the psychiatric community now includes a new listing, internet disorder. all right, this is very interesting, wendy, this manual is not listing it as a full-blown disorder yet, just that it needs to be further studied. and a lot of us are using devices, our computer a lot. so what does internet sort of look like? >> well, it looks like almost any other addition disorder, whether it is on-line gaming, surfing the internet, on-line porn, whether you have withdrawal symptoms when you try to stop. and also, if you are sort of losing the interest in other activities, and finally, if you're deceiving your family about how much your on line or if you're experiencing the withdrawals, then that shows an addition. >> so you need to go to see somebody about it, just like any other addition, right? >> yes, i always say an addiction is an addiction, you equate the addiction like gambling, alcohol, drug addictions, but too much alcohol, drugs, obviously will kill you. too much gambling is bad for finances. so what does too much computer time do to us? too much internet? what does that do? >> well, first of all, it is a fake stress as we surf around on the internet looking for a random rush. we're not meant to be sitting still while we're experiencing that type of rush or that type of anxiety or that type of stress. so it hurts is psychologically. so it creates a type of deficit disorder. so reading something, you're looking, clicking through, moving on, having five screens open at once. and finally, it iseplacing real-life relationships and real-life communication skills. it reduces social intelligence and emotional intelligence, because you're just busy taking in information. >> but won't we adjust? i mean, humans adjust, as time progresses you will adjust to it. >> you will adjust to having more faulty real-life relationships, yes. >> i noticed people used to go to a coffee shop, or a bar, to hang out with people. now, people are chatting on line. is this a real thing? or are we just caught up in this addict society? or an addict nation? because everybody is addicted to something. >> you know it is a new substance to become addicted to. but people who are unable to self-regulate, and experience the withdrawals, it is a very real thing, don. >> so are there people who specialize in the behavior? >> anybody who experiences it can be treated, but look at your own family. start to put technology rules on your teenagers and kids. start early, no media during the dinner table or on while homework is being done. all media goes off at a set time at night, so you don't fall asleep with background sounds, try that with your family and see how they get through that with their withdrawal. >> so do you recognize it when you said people are going through withdrawal, and not showing up for dinner. and you have to say get off that phone or get off the computer? >> yeah, my wake-up call was when my second grader wrote a story, saying mom spent too much time on her cell phone, and was not parenting enough. i said wait, i have to focus, not multi-task, focus on one thing ll. >> that was some wake-up call, glad you got it. thank you, wendy, we appreciate it. >> thank you. >> north korean soldier defects to south korea after killing his colleagues. >>> and military wives going topless for a cause close to their hearts. >> don't forget you can stay connected, watch cnn live from your computer, at work, go to cnn.comlive/tv. i very rarely put gas in my chevy volt. i go to the gas station such a small amount that i forget how to put gas in my car. 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has been no extraordinary moves by the north korean army, so far. >> the soldier was on guard duty when he killed his platoon and squad leaders, and was in the able to cross without being stopped. the south korean soldiers say they heard the gunfire before seeing him run. it was confirmed he wanted to defect, he was taken to an undisclosed location and allowed to defect. very few were able to get through here, the last time was two and a half years ago according to the defense ministry, here in seoul. cnn, seoul. >>> coming up on half past the hour, we'll get a look at the headlines right now. abu masri appeared in new york city today, a muslim cleric, born in egypt, finally extradited to the united states from britain. well, he has a long list of terrorist charges going back to the '90s, and is a professed admirer of osama bin laden. his formal arraignment will be tuesday morning. >>> and president obama reportedly getting a boost on one hand, and doing damage control on the other. he is riding high on lower unemployment numbers. but also trying to recover from his poorly reviewed showing at the first presidential debate with mitt romney. >>> meanwhile, romney's team is claiming a big supporter bounce since that debate. they say they have raised more than 12 million dollars in just the past 48 hours. >>> and people of venezuela, traveling to one of six offices in the u.s. where they can vote in tomorrow's election. volunteers say at least 7,000 will go to new orleans from florida, to cast ballots. the current president, hugo chavez, running for another six-year term, first elected president in 1998. >>> and a rocket from a private company set to launch tomorrow carrying supplies from the international space station. this space flight is huge, because it is the first contracted cargo re-supply flight in nasa's history. the others were scheduled at 8 p.m. eastern. >>> and a group of military wives making quite a statement as part of an effort to combat post traumatic stress disorder. this shows a woman holding her husband's gun, showing the heartfelt support, written across her back. her husband sought help for ptsd, but it was not enough. >> our soldiers have a lot to say. they have a lot bottled up inside of them. and no one is listening. i feel like they're afraid to be able to say what they need to say, because they're afraid it is going to hurt their record. >> after just a few months the photo campaign now includes hundreds of women from around the world, taking off their tops to battle bare. for more information on this head to cnn.com. >>> in new york this morning, the navy commissioned the uss michael murphy, the u.s. guided missile destroyer, the ship was named for lieutenant murphy, who was shot when he ran out into enemy fire. he was trying to get a clear signal so he could call for backup for his four-man team. >>> and the state of delaware overwhelmingly passing a tough child-abuse prevention law. why some say it crosses the line, coming up. >>> and the nation's unemployment rate fell in september. the numbers are in. and they're good. unexpectedly good. more people are returning to work, and hiring was steady. let's meet one guy who took a huge risk to make a career change in a brightening job market. here is christine romans with more. >> reporter: he wanted to switch careers from operations in i.t. to marketing and big data. in a slow jobs market, that takes training and risks. >> i decided to go back to business school. and i went part-time. and realized that i needed even more training. so i left my full-time position, and gained internship at cbs, and that was a great gateway. so the internship plus the mba, i was able to fortunately land the job, looking at the data more on the marketing end and helping with making strategic decisions. >> reporter: the switch took time and money, $80,000 in student loans. >> is it worth the investment to re-train in your career, and take on all of the student loans? >> yes, it is worth the investment. >> reporter: the degree loan doesn't open doors. he also worked with a job coach. >> we really worked with him on career changes, his resume speaks to what he did before. in order to get people to think of him in a different way, he had to talk to them, and tell them. >> there are on line courses in the new field. >> it can't seem like a career-changer, people will ask about experience if you're not demonstrating enough expertise or a skill set. you have to show the people who are already in that job and that industry, that i can do this, too. and it is just a question of getting hired. >> reporter: remember, an employer typically scans a resume for ten deteseconds or l >> people are hoping to get noticed. what really matters is networking and interviewing. you want to get in front of as many people and tell them your story, in his case, he was interested in strategy. he talked to people who had those jobs. he didn't know them, but he reached out. >> it 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the first state to pass a controversial law that effectively out laws the corporal discipline of children by their parents. now the bill redefines child abuse laws that calls any act of pain. the son of vp joe biden said the old law needed to be changed because it had been difficult to prosecute cases where a child was too young to speak, or otherwise nonverbal. criminal defense attorney holly hughes is here. okay, critics say it could go too far and be misused. how do you think a law like this will be interpreted in the courts? >> i think it is coming back. it will be challenged. it will not pass constitutional muster, what is called vague and over-broad. and anything you do, essential that causes pain. well, what happens when your child is about to run into the street and you snatch them back by the arm and that causes pain. have you suddenly -- are you on the hook for child abuse, are you going to be arrested for that? this is craziness. >> my parents would be life in prison. >> oh, my word, exactly, mine, too, mine too. i was just talking about that. productive members of society. you know, neither one of us is advocating abuse. >> there is a difference. >> right, there is an absolute difference, a line between abuse and discipline. and you need to be able the discipline your children. i mean, this is way too much over-reaching, too much state inference with the ability to necessarily do what you have to do to raise a good child. >> well, i was spanked, i went to catholic school. so let's move on now, in texas, a 17-year-old called 911 and described to the operator what happened at his home. listen. >> okay, what is the emergency? >> i just killed my mom and my sister? >> what? >> i just killed my mom and sister. >> you just killed your mom and sister, how did you do that? >> i shot them with a .22 revolver. >> okay, so first of all, what happened? what is behind this? do we know? >> we don't know, but when the operator, she was fantastic and kept him on the line for 22 minutes while the police were enroute, kept him talking, just asking questions, you know, why did you do this? he said essentially, i was not angry, no real reason, i just planned it for a while, i just wanted to kill somebody. and he said them, just anybody? he said oh, just anybody. i think what we'll see is a defense will have for a psychiatric evaluation. >> if he is being charged with capital murder, then how do you defend somebody like this? because can they use it as a confession? is it inadmissible? >> of course it is, this is free, voluntary, no interrogation, she is just trying to get information at this time. >> how do you defend somebody like this? >> i think what is going to happen, we're going to see a psychiatric evaluation, because if you listen to this, he is not upset. he is not boasting either, he is just calling in, and he is very disconnected from his own line, from his own experience. so whether or not, as you and i both know, psychiatric defenses are not usually successful, only successful in about 1% of the cases they're tried in. and they're not tried very often. but i think with this young man, as young as he is, and as violent as this was and to just stay there and admit you did it. and not try to hide and run i think we can actually see somebody who -- that is going to be the tack they use. >> like -- >> i am going to the store for milk, and just shot my mother and sister, heartbreaking for everybody involved. all the way around. >> appreciate it. >>> coming up, a recent study shows at least 5 million kids skipped class at least one of every ten days. was that you? >> no. >> i didn't. >> i got spanked for that. >> we'll tell you about the school system trying to get them back into the desk. >>> but first, each week, we want to shine a spotlight on the top ten cnn heros, but this next honoree is bringing a hidden element out of the shadows, kids who care for loved ones and hold on to their childhood at the same time. >> that is a big priority than going to school, because i don't know what i would do if something happened to her. >> in the united states there are at least 1.3 million children caring for somebody who is ill orderly or disabled. they can become isolated. there are physical effects, the stresses of it, and the worry. >> thank you, baby, thank you so much. >> but these children suffer silently. people don't know they exist. i am o'connor siskowski, and i am bringing this precious population into the light to transform their lives so that they can stay in school. we offer each child a home visit. >> has that been helpful? >> we look at what we can provide to meet the need. we go into the schools where there is a support group, and offer out of school activities that give the child a break. so they know that they're not alone. >> so is so relaxing. >> we give them hope for their future. >> nicholas. >> now, i'm getting as and bs, and i feel more confident. >> but we have a long way to go. there is so 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"live and let die"'s head of state drug lord came ten years before panama and nine months after the release of "the world is not enough" there was a fatal incident. but alas. no james bond to stop it. is this all coincidence? or crystal ball? >> my grand father had a saying, the better you are, the luckier you get. they work very hard at creating these stories that are going to feel right of the moment. and when you do that, sometimes you catch the moment. >> reporter: so pay attention next month when the new james bond film "skyfall" arrives. it could just be another preview of world events. >> how much do you know about fear? zblsh michele turner, cnn, hollywood. >> i don't really know them specifically. all the bond movies kind of run together. what's your favorite? 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>> i'm interested to see if romney can keep up his energy like he did so well here. i'm interested to see if obama comes up to the bar and he does so well when there's an audience. i want to see some of that charisma and warmth. >> always very interesting. thank so you much. appreciate you coming in. >> my pleasure. >> that was at lot of fun. cnn newsroom continues with fredericka. >> don't blink a lot. the viewers will know you're stressed. >> i'll have to look back and evaluate. fascinating stuff. i love that body language chitchat. my body language says hey have a great day. >> mine says bye-bye. >> all right. have a good day. appreciate that. let's begin. with the arrival of a wanted terror suspect, mais in new yor. our dan webber takes a look at what the suspects are accused of. >> he's wanted on 11 terrorist charges in the united states including on trying to st. terrorist training camp at this ranch in oregon in 1999. he's accused of masterminding the kidnapping of 16 western tourists in yemen in 1998, including two americans. as well as four other men are being extradited to the u.s.. 2005 them are accused of fundraising for the taliban and rebels in 1999 and the east african bombings that left 265 people dead. >> that was dan webber reporting. senior u.n. correspondent richard roth joining me live from new york. al masri is scheduled to be in court today. what's the latest we're hearing about that. >> reporter: supposed to be his first proceeding through the legal system, timing not known yet. this is in downtown manhattan not far from the scene of 9/11, and the defendant has been praise worthy of what occurred on september 11th, 2001, and he's also been accused as dan rivers talked about on those 11 terror related charges in the uk of inciting violence and terrorism. he did not want to come here, neither did the four other men who flew in on two planes at 2:30 in the morning eastern time. they feared conditions in prison here in the united states, his attorneys in the uk said he's not well, he's got very physical and emotional other issues. >> meantime one of the other suspects, the father of that other suspect says that his son is innocent. just take a listen to what he had to tell cnn earlier. >> i'm disappointed because i thought we lived in a democratic country and we have got the best legal system in the world. i thought that i would get a fair chance and babar would get a fair trial. i'm very disappointed. >> two possible hearings in one day. there was an earlier hearing. >> reporter: that's right. the son of that man has already pled not guilty in a connecticut court along with another suspect both referred toby dan rivers, they were wanted on terrorism charges, crimes committed through the internet, according to a law enforcement source, both men in the connecticut case appeared in their united kingdom prison jump suits, then they were handcuffed and being led in and standard practice the handcuffs were taken off for the legal proceeding. they will also, of course, face more legal proceedings down the road. >> richard roth in new york, thanks so much. >>> now to some other very pressing domestic matters. the new jobs report, it's become a political football with the election just a month away, the labor department says 114,000 jobs were created in september with the unemployment rate coming in at 7.8% now. that's a drop of .3% from august. no spuurprise that in this seas there's different views of the same number. the chairman of economic advisers says friday's employment report provide further evidence that the u.s. economy is continuing to heal from the wounds inflicted by the worst downturn since the great depression. jack welch tweeted this, unbelievable jobs numbers, these chicago guys will do anything, can't debate so change the numbers. and the partisan pushing continues this morning. >> on friday we learned that the unemployment rate is now at its lowest level since i took office. >> friday's jobs report shows america still desperately needs jobs. yet the president's central and sole proposal would mean fewer jobs. >> republicans in congress need to stop trying to relaxing fight the battles of the past few years and finally start doing something to actually help the middle class get ahead. >> we can't afford four more years like the last four. falling incomes, rising prices, 23 million americans struggling for work. >> congress needs to step up and pass my plan to create a veterans job corps to help our returning heroes find work as cops, firefighters and park rangers in communities across the country. a few weeks ago republicans in the senate voted that plan down. ask them why someone who fights for this country abroad should fight for a job when they come home. >> understand that the president must campaign, but he also has a job to do. while barack obama enjoys being president, he doesn't seem to enjoy the work required of being a great president. >> if we're going to keep this economy moving forward there's no time for political games even in a political season. >> all right. now with one debate behind them president barack obama and mitt romney are gearing up for their next face off later on in the month. the president is laying low at the white house today with no public events scheduled. he spent yesterday rallying supporters in ohio. mr. romney who rallied yesterday in florida is preparing for the next debate. romney will hold a debate victory rally this evening. >>> september proved to be a lucrative month for the president's re-election campaign. democrats raised $181 million. that's at that record. and in the last month of the campaign that cash could prove crucial especially for ad buys in toss up states. >>> thousands of criminal cases are now in jeopardy and some people say they may have been wrongfully convicted because of a scandal uncovered in boston. how could it happen? >>> boston's legal system faces a potential nightmare. thousands of cases dating back nearly a decade could be gentlemen par di jeopardized by a lab worker that the afternoonered with evidence. >> it was refreshing because i didn't think it was real. >> reporter: it was real until last week, miss johnson was doing about three years in prison on a drug conviction, then she was suddenly set free. >> what is it like to be out of prison? >> freedom. yeah. i can breathe. >> reporter: free because of the bizarre alleged actions of this woman, former massachusetts chemist annie dookan. she's accused of tampering with drug evidence that can call into question 34,000 cases going back to 2003. 34,000. at the moment she faces only three charges. however in boston alone the d.a. estimates as many as 500 convicted felons could be set free. >> how big of a mess is this? >> at this point, susan, we don't know. >> reporter: at this lab now closed by the state, dokan allegedly mishandled drugs seized by police for evidence at trial. she estimated the amount of drugs at times by simply looking at them and certified some drugs as cocaine that are now testing negative. she didn't just write down the wrong thing. prosecutors accuse her of doctoring evidence to change test results. >> she would take known cocaine from an area that she knew was cocaine and actually add them to the sample to make it cocaine. >> reporter: she's also charged with lying on the witness stand about the credentials on her resume including a masters degree in chemistry she never received. but the question is why? was dookan trying to help police? was she trying to make herself look good? so far it's a mystery. the only thing we know is what's in this court document where investigators say at first dookan denied doing anything wrong. but later she admitted quote, i screwed up big time, i messed up, i messed up bad. it's my fault. in some cases her alleged tampering may have destroyed solid police work. in others it may have wrongfully convicted the innocent. >> this is the most egregious situation. >> how could something like this happen? >> i don't have the answer for that. the community has no confidence right now in the justice system because they are being told the scientific evidence which we're supposed to depend on, in the age of 2012 is faulty. >> we tried unsuccessfully for two face to reach kookan's attorney. moms like stephanie cooper is nervous. >> worry for my safety and my son also. >> community organizer michael kozu is worried about what will happen to this boston neighborhood. >> we're concerned about letting people get back out it will go back to what it used to be. >> miss johnson said she was wrongfully convicted of selling crack on the street. she's free for good and plans to challenge her conviction down the road. what she cannot get back are the nearly two years she lost with her daughter, born eight weeks before she was sent to prison. >> i lost my child. i lost custody of my child. and i don't know how i'm going to fix that. >> hat do you think of the chemist who is now accused of -- >> she destroyed my life. but i forgive her. but as long as i have my daughter that's all i care about. >> reporter: susan candiotti, cnn, boston. >> susan candiotti will join us in the 3:00 eastern hour for more. this is shaping up to be a historic weekend for nasa. the mars rover curiosity will try something that's never been done on the red planet before. we'll show you some of the latest pictures from mars. >>> nasa could make history on mars this weekend. it will order its recover curiosity to scoop up martian dirt by activating its robotic arm. it will analyze the soils makeup. curiosity is looking for minerals using x-ray defraction. this process has never been done on mars before. baseball's national league wild card playoff friday was wild. atlanta lost to the st. louis cardinals and fans littered the field. a call in the eighth inning with one out and runners on first and second, the braves hit a pop up to shallow left field. the ball drops, though. and the players didn't throw out any of the runners. the umpire called the batter out. he not base wos have been loaded. the newfoundland fly rule is used to letting players to let a fly ball drop to get two outs. the braves manager protested but was overruled. >>> a 220-pound gym teacher claims he was beaten up by a first grader and now he's suing. we'll get schooled on this case with our legal guys. now during chevy truck month, get 0% apr financing for 60 months or trade up to get the 2012 chevy silverado all-star edition with a total value of $8,000. hurry in before they're all gone! >>> in massachusetts a convicted rapist wants visitation rights for the child he fathered from the crime. the victim was 14 at the time. now four years later she says she doesn't want her rapist anywhere near her child. let's bring in our legal guys avery friedman and richard herman. gentlemen, two things really standing out in this case. richard, you know, you first. how unusual is it for a convicted rapist to be held to visitation as well as to payment, child support? >> well, fred, in 34 states this happens. 34 states allow this. 16 states say no. the criminal sentencing judge in this particular case directed the case to go to family court and directed him instead topography make restitution, to make child support payments. so he says listen if i'm making child support payments, i want to be a father to my child, i want to have a say in education, in upbringing, and as long as i'm paying child support i'm going to do this. now one issue is can a criminal court judge direct a case to family court? that's a big issue here. but having said that it's in family court right now and he's going to get his visitation. absolutely. >> well, avery this kind of an arrangement seems to undermine a whole rape conviction. now we're saying or the court is saying that there's a relationship established between the biological parents of this child even though it came as a result of rape. >> well, there is no relationship. there's no legal relationship. this is often what we see, men trying avoid child support, trying to get away from that responsibility. as far as i'm concerned he doesn't get visitation. they can absolutely do that. you want to know something? i think the victim, she was in eighth grade when she was raped by this man should go after him for civil damages, for civil assault, for civil battery and you want to know let's see how it goes like. . the order should be challenged. it's way out of line. typical example of a man trying to get out of responsibility by saying child support, i get to raise the kid. >> since this young lady was 14 at the time, you know, he was 17. so now he would want visitation of the child. why would the court, you know, apie appease that request? >> the thing is he was 17. she was 14. it was statutory rape. they were friends. they met in church. they were close. the judge fashioned a remedy here. there are different levels on that sex offender registry, fred. i don't know what level if any level he received probation, he did not go to prison. the prosecutor was looking for three to five years in prison. he got no prison. the judge let him off very easy here and directed him to make child support payments. he's not looking to evade anything he's making child support payments. >> terrible. >> now wanting to maintain a relationship with the visitation. it's definitely odd. okay. all right. let's go on to another case. this is an odd case. this one in new york in queens. it involves a gym teacher who says his ankle was broken, his knee injured after saying a first grader who was all of 50 pounds or so, who apparently assaulted him and now he, the gym teacher right here who is a good 220 pounds and 5'10" says he wants compensation for medical costs of $10,000. he wants that from the school district, and these are the two, the gym teacher and the child actually pleading their case. let's listen first. >> he was very strong, he was kicking me. he was using the heel of his feet to kick me in my legs. he spun around, belted me directly in my right knee and i was trying to move back away but i was by the stairs and stuff i heard a big pop to my knee. >> you asked him -- yeah. >> dekick the man? >> he said no mommy. >> did you kick him? >> i don't know. i forgot. >> oh, gosh this is so awkward. richard you first. where do we begin on this one. i'm sure john webster the gym teacher he was in a tough situation. he can't physically, i guess, intervene to stop this little kid because then he may be facing some assault charges. but he says he got injured. >> that's the problem, fred. my mother, my sister are teachers. they can't bring glocks to school with them. they are in these environments. some students are insane. if they lay a hand on a student they will get prosecuted and lose their jobs. it's a tough situation to be in. this guy is, he's not 220, he's 240 from that picture there and for him to tell his friends to sit around and say some 6-year-old kid beat me up and bullied me can you imagine that? the key, fred, is that this child had a propensity to act up and fight with administration and other students. the cool knew that and he's saying the school did nothing about that. they allowed the condition to continue and as a result of that he himself got injured. he's not only suing for meds, he's suing for damages. >> avery, the school mr. webster says is complicit so to speak for not having done something to intervene with this kid who has a reputation of being a troublemaker. >> well a troublemaker because he needed medication. they now have him on medication. let me tell you something. i don't think this is a bad case. i think it's bad journalism. what i mean by that "new york post" headline 6-year-old beats up 220-pound gym teach. that's misleading. that's septic journalismism. it's workplace injury. it's basically a worker's compensation case. take the kid to the principal's office. kid by the way started monkeying around with the principal and safety officer. the teacher got kicked in the knee. legitimate worker's comp case. it's a good case but bad journalism. >> we'll see you in 15 minutes because we have two more very good case. one involving -- they are all good case. one involving your cell phone and the location, the data collected by investigators. is that right? is that unreasonable search and seizure. supreme court and the obama administration are battling over that very issue. we'll see avery and richard back in a few minutes. some young people have to grow up way too soon. at a time when they should be enjoying their childhood they are forced by circumstance phot to care for others. ♪ ♪ [ male announcer ] its lightweight construction makes it nimble... ♪ its road gripping performance makes it a cadillac. introducing the all-new cadillac xts. available with advanced haldex all-wheel drive. 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>> yeah. fred, i think the sole criteria here will be whether or not this test disadvantages hearing impaired or speech impaired. that's the issue. whether disadvantages this group of people because if i want does not disadvantage them and the person is crying sour grapes because they didn't get the job these tests are going to be permissible, they are allowed to be used. tough economic times right now and employers can use a vast array of criteria to determine which employees they think will be best suited for their jobs and this is one criteria for hem to use. it's legitimate. i think this is going to be legitimate and i think this case will get thrown out, fred. >> interesting. we did reach out to both kroger even though sanny is filing this discrimination case against cronos. we reached out to the ones who designed the test. no callback. >> they can't call you back again? what's going on here. >> no comment. >> i always call you back. >> i appreciate that. >> we would call you back. >> we did in all fairness reach out to both and we wanted to hear their comments. let's move on to another case this is in new orleans. the justice department will tell federal judges that warrantless tracking of the location of americans mobile devices is legal. this sounds very familiar and we had another case that kind of put the cell phone tracking devices on the hot seat. so why does the justice department want to be able to track you from your phone, richard? >> well, fred, it's a great method to help solve crimes. i mean let's face it, if law enforcement can retrieve data that is supplied by your cell phone and get that information they can track you for a period of time. now they wanted it for 60 days. they said we should be entitled to do this without getting a warrant for 60 days. that's a sufficient period of time to help us. then after that we have to go to court to get a warrant. but the courts and when circuits get split and decisions like this, fred, 28 days was held unconstitutional when a device was put on a car without a warrant so, therefore, they are arguing this can't be constitutional, it's got to be a fourth amendment violence. >> avery, does there have to be probable cause. do you have to be suspect of something. this isn't arbitrarily anybody can be tracked, right? >> that's actually the point. if there's probable cause go get your warrant. i actually think this is the or one of the hottest privacy issues right now in contemporary america. the fact is one federal appeals court up in this part of the country, in the midwest ruled 2-1 it doesn't violate a reasonable expectation of privacy, the gps tracking, and the court success asked for the entire court to hear it. other federal courts ruled otherwise. that case was argued this week in front of a federal three judge panel in new orleans. i'm in agreement with richard. this case ultimately is headed to the highest court in america and given what justice scalia who wrote the opinion earlier this year said i think there's a legitimate privacy issue and it's going a battle, a real showdown. >> but as argued, avery in the courts up in your area there they say look you volunteered this information to your phone company therefore you have no reasonable expectation of privacy. >> that's right. >> that was the argument. but it's going d.c. we'll see what happens. >> fascinating. an agreement to punctuate. >> we agree. >> it happens sometimes. >> finally happened. >> rarely but it does happen. we like it either way. avery, richard thanks so much. good to see both of you. have a great rest of the weekend. the legal guys are here every saturday to give us their take on the most intrigue legal cases. you don't want to miss it. one of the most beautiful times the year, everyone in agreement on that. fall foliage creating a dazzling display of color. we'll take you on a trip to tantalize the eyes. >>> have you been feeling energized from the cooler temperatures that come with fall. many places that means leaf season, leaf peeping is here and we tell you how to make the most of it. >> reporter: bursts of red, orange and gold, nature's annual fall show is getting under way. >> fall is a beautiful time to travel, the summer greens are giving way to brilliant colors and incredible foliage so it's a great time to consider a road trip or just an opportunity to get outside and see the beautiful landscape. >> reporter: before you head out go to the chamber of commerce or visitor's bureau website for the place you're planning to explore. >> there are so many ways to take in the beautiful fall foliage. in many destinations you can do a hot air balloon ride. there's also great hiking and biking opportunities. >> reporter: make sure to take in harvest festivals and apple picking. visit pickyourown.org to find the best spots. don't wait too long. you may miss the best of the season. >> colors start to change as early as late september and go through the end of november. if the trees have changed where you are consider is going to lower elevation or a more southern spot. >>> lots of cool stuff. we have more great ideas 2:00 eastern hour. great places to see those leaves. i don't spend money on gasoline. i am probably going to the gas station about once a month. last time i was at a gas station was about...i would say... two months ago. i very rarely put gas in my chevy volt. i go to the gas station such a small amount that i forget how to put gas in my car. 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[ male announcer ] now get 50% off brake pads and shoes at meineke. >>> hospital workers in colorado are being told to get a flu shot by the end of the year or be fired. it requires 60% of health care workers to get the vaccination. some hospitals made it mandatory for everyone. if an employee refuses they could be suspended and fired. some say it violates their rights. >> to me it's against your civil rights. i don't want to get the flu shot. and to me it seems like i'm being forced into putting a virus in my body that i object to. >> we need to have a workforce available when the public needs fit they are sick and people choose to work in a hospital. >> if workers have a medical condition that prevents them from getting the shot they have to wear a mask. >>> the unemployment rate fell in september. more people returned to the labor force and hiring was steady. in this week's smart is the new rich meet one guy who took a big risk to make a career change in a brightening job market. here's christine romans. >> reporter: he wanted to switch careers from operations in i.t. to marketing and big data. in a slow jobs market that takes training and risk. >> i decided to go back to business school and i went part time and realized that i needed even more training so i left my full time position and gained internship at cbs. and that was a great gateway. so the internship plus the mba, i was able to fortunately land at met life. looking at the data more on the marketing end and helping with making strategic decisions. >> reporter: the switch took time and money, $80,000 in student loans. >> is it worth the investment to retrain in your career, take on all those student loans? >> yes it's thwart investment. >> reporter: the degree alone doesn't open doors. he also worked with a job coach. >> we worked with him on interviewing and networking because let's face it as a career changer his resume speaks to what he did before. in order to get people to think of him in a different way he had to talk to people, tell them his story. >> reporter: not all career switches require an mba or 80 grand in debt. consider community colleges or free online course. >> a career changer can't seem like a career changer. people will ask about experience if you're not demonstrating enough expertise or a skill set. you have to show the people who are already in that job, in that industry that i can do this too and it's just a question of getting hired. >> reporter: remember, an employer typically scan as resume for ten seconds or less. >> too many job-seekers will suspend the rest of their search hoping for the perfect resume that want nets noticed. it's irrelevant. what matters is networking and interviewing. you want to get in front much as many people and tell them their story. he talked to people who had those jobs. he didn't know them but reach out. >> 2 1/2 year journey to get the job i wanted but definitely worth it and paying off now. this is my dream job. >> reporter: rom, cnn new york. >> a deadly disease is killing people across the started and it started after patients were injected with these bottles of infected medicines. we'll have the details four. americans believe they should be in charge of their own future. how they'll live tomorrow. for more than 116 years, ameriprise financial has worked for their clients' futures. helping millions of americans retire on their terms. when they want. where they want. doing what they want. ameriprise. the strength of a leader in retirement planning. the heart of 10,000 advisors working with you one-to-one. together for your future. ♪ after you jumped buship in bangkok,n. together for your future. i thought i'd lost you. >>> surfing is my life now. but who's going to .... >>> tell the world that priceline has even faster, easier ways to save you money. . . on hotels, flights & cars? you still have it. >>> i'll always have it. so this is it? >>> we'll see where the waves take me. sayonara, brah! energy is being produced to power our lives. while energy development comes with some risk, north america's natural gas producers are committed to safely and responsibly providing generations of cleaner-burning energy for our country, drilling thousands of feet below fresh water sources within self-contained well systems. and, using state-of-the-art monitoring technologies, rigorous practices help ensure our operations are safe and clean for our communities and the environment. we're america's natural gas. >>> a look at some of the top stories right new. radical cleric abu hamza al masri is now in new york. he's one of five men extradited from the uk today on terror charges. he is scheduled to be in court today and will be arraigned tuesday. >>> five people are dead as a deadly disease sweeps through the country. the centers for disease control and prevention say it's fungal meningitis and 47 people in seven states are now sick. the cdc says they contracted the infection from a contaminated steroid injection. now physicians in 23 states are checking patient records to see how many people received those injections. >>> the israeli air force shot down an unmanned drone over southern israel this morning. they say the craft had entered israeli airspace. really soldiers are searching the area for remains of the drone. it's not yet clear where the drone originated. >>> coming up in the cnn newsroom at 2:00, politics of numbers. how the latest jobs report is being spun by both democrats and republicans. also meet the 1969 james bond, george lazenby. only did one bond movie. oil ask him why he never did another. that's at 3:00 eastern time
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good to know that we've got the former governor and next united states senator from the commonwealth of virginia, tim kaine! and your congressman, jerry conley. [cheers] and good to see all of you. so one month. just one month from tomorrow, virginia, you're going to step into a voting booth, and you are going to have a very big choice to make. i know folks in this crowd may have already made some decisions. [cheers] but for the undecideds that are here as well as those who are watching today, i said this before, this is a choice not just between two candidates or two parties but a choice between two fundamentally different visions for america. and today, i believe that as a nation, we are moving forward again. we're moving forward. [applause] after losing about 800,000 jobs a month when i took office, our businesses have now added 5.2 million new jobs over the past 2 1/2 years. [applause] this morning, we found out that the unemployment rate has fallen to its lowest level since i took office. [cheers] more americans entered the work force, more people are getting jobs. now, every mo
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cup, which that race is ongoing on the opposite side of the bay. and a lot of these folks obviously going to be heading into san francisco for our big play-off weekend for the giants. so let's show you what we got in terms of our temperatures. what you're going to notice out here, you're going to want a light jacket. it's a little chilly outside right now. and the winds have been a little gusty at times. they've been seeing the winds picking up. a we look at some of the conditions as we go into tonight, we will see temperatures mainly in the 50s and 60s outside. and we may actually have a little bit of patchy drizzle in a few spots around the bay. that's something we're going to be watching as we get into tomorrow morning. the other thing we're watching is an area of low pressure, which is sitting offshore that is going to try to toss a few showers towards the bay area. the big question is will these arrive in time for all of the weekend events we've got for this bay area's big weekend? everything outdoors depends on the weather. it's cool and breezy. we'll walk you through the chances of seeing a few showers maybe popping up in our seven-day forecast. we'll have that for you in the full forecast when we come back here live from the flight deck of the uss macon island. back to you. >> very nice. rob mayeda from the flight deck there. great vantage point for him. to read about all the events through the weekend, and how to get around and avoid the delays, even the up-to-the-minute weather changes from rob mayeda and our weather team, go to our website, nbcbayarea.com, or follow us on facebook and twitter. >>> fill up and pay up. gas prices across the bay area spiked overnight, crossing the $5 a gallon mark. >> the big question is why. part of the blame is in the bay area. the recent richmond refinery fire. nbc bay area's jodi hernandez joins us this evening in concord. not much of a choice for most of us, jodi. we rely on our cars. but when will these prices come down? >> reporter: that's anyone's guess. some actually think the prices may go up even more. rotten robbie here in concord had to raise their prices 24 cents in just a day, according to the owner. that is the biggest one-day jump they have ever had to make. and if you think the prices you see right here are bad, compared to other gas stations in the bay area, this may actually be a bargain. call it sticker shock. gas prices acrosshe bay area have reached near record highs. in some places, breaking the $5 mark. >> it's going to be $6 soon at the rate this is going. people can't afford, that even if you're wealthy. >> reporter: aaa's says pump prices in the bay area are the highest in the state. they say pipeline problems and refinery outages, including reduced capacity at chevron's richmond plant following the recent fire there have caused prices to soar. >> all of that put together has created this perfect storm and has driven prices up significantly because there is this perceived reality that we are in a shortage, that there is a shortage of gasoline. it's a tightening of supplies. >> reporter: that tightens of supplies has meant a need to tighten the belt for many, causing some to cancel weekend road trips and dinners out. >> if five gallons could get me somewhere here and back twice, i'd be happy. but it's only going to get me there and back one time, and i'm going to come back and put another $25 in my tank. it's going to be ridiculous. >> definitely having less money for other things i would want to buy or spend money on, i'm having to spend on gas instead. >> reporter: scott claire spent $130 to fill up his big work truck today. and he says it won't last long. he'll have to fill it up again come monday. >> you know what? i can probably afford to keep filling it up, but there is a lot of people that can't. >> i remember when my parents used to talk about how gas used to be $2, $2.50, $3. today a full paycheck is a full tank of your gas. >> reporter: and that hurts. we are back here live at rotten robbie. yesterday morning the price of a regular gallon was $4.35 a gallon. as you can see now, it's now at $4.59. aaa tells me that refinery that was experiencing an outrage in southern california is now back online tonight, and there is hope that that may stabilize the situation. but for now, prices continue to hover at the $5 mark. reporting live in concord, i'm jodi hernandez, nbc bay area news. >>> decision 2012 and a seismic shake-up thanks to some economic news. for the first time since president obama took office, the nation's unemployment rate is now less than 8%. the unexpected news seemed to buoy the president on the campaign trail, who took advantage of the announcement that the american economy created 114,000 jobs last month. >> more americans entered the workforce. more people are getting jobs. >> this country has come too far to turn back now. >> conservatives, though, took to social media to accuse the obama administration of doctoring those numbers. republican nominee mitt romney did not go that far, but did say the reason for drop in the unemployment rate is because americans have just stopped looking for work. >>> the mom accused of abandoning her 10-year-old daughter inside of a local safeway store after a botched shoplifting attempt was in court today. and nbc bay area has learned investigators believe this mom did the same thing just go weeks earlier and got away with it. the prosecutor says marci ariko pulled the same stunt at the same morgan hill safeway store. the difference is the first time she allegedly went into the store with her daughter instead of waiting outside the whole time. a loss prevention officer with the store said he recognized both mom and daughter the second time around. today she was officially charged with a felony count of commercial burglary and a misdemeanor count of contributing to the delinquency of a minor. >> you know, it's a very sad situation, very sad. i mean it's the -- it's the person who is supposed to be nurturing you, and instead it's a corruption. >> her public defender asked that she be released on her own recognizance. the just denied that request, pointing how she has already fled. she is back in santa clara county jail. bail is set at $50,000. she is set to enter a plea october 16th. >>> one year ago today, a gunman opened fire on his coworkers at the lehigh cement plant in cupertino. the early morning shooting rampage left three people dead and seven people injured. the gunman, shareef allman fled from the quarry and hid in a sunnyvale area. more than 100 officers descended in the area tool fundamental they spotted him in her driveway. she still has bullet holes from where deputies opened fire on allman. >> the shots range out. we heard three rounds of shots in quick succession. and we were hunkered in the bathroom waiting, and the police told us to come out about five minutes later, and he was dead. >> allman died on her driveway. an autopsy later revealed he was killed by a self-inflicted gunshot wound to the head. today employees at the cement plant honored their murdered coworkers with a moment of silence. they also paid tributes to the victims by visiting a memorial garden at the plant. it has plaque with the names and faces of the three coworkers who were killed. it reads "rest in peace, our brothers." >>> time goes by quickly. >> was also one year ago today that steve jobs passed away. his legacy around the world is well documented. but it's legacy here where he grew up and lived that is more special. among the few local reporters who dealt with steve jobs throughout the years, our own scott budman. scott, an emotional day for those who never even met him. >> as cool as it was to get one-on-one time with steve jobs, it's to see how much has happened to his company. steve jobs setting the table for so much when it comes to design of products and how companies deal with and sell their products to customers. in the one year since jobs' passing, apple has flourished. the tech industry has grown, and people are eagerly looking forward to what is next. >> i think apple itself, apple the company is the biggest legacy for steve jobs. he built it and he rebuilt it when he came back. and i think you can see that everything they do in their approach to advertisement, their approach to design, in their approach to how they deal with their customers. >> there is also the bottom line. lots of people said new ceo tim cook wouldn't be flashy enough or creative enough. but customers aren't complaining. they're too busy buying gadgets. and investors sure aren't complaining. apple's stock is up close to 70% over the last 12 months. it's a combination really of what jobs was able to do while he was here and with the company that was clearly prepared for the next step has been able to do since. now tonight at 6:00, what a young billionaire in silicon valley has to say about the lesson of steve jobs. back to you guys. >> very nice. i notice when you go on to the apple website, the first thing that pops on is that video tribute to steve jobs. >> he will be remembered. >>> cancer is typically thought of a something that attacks women. >>> and this grand opening in san francisco today. the mad frenzy and take you inside. >>> and i'm rob mayeda here watching fleet week on the top of the uss macon island as we watch the weather very closely for all of our outdoor events this weekend. the big bay area weekend for sports on the seas, in the air. we've got you covered with your forecast this weekend, coming up. [ taste buds ] donuts, donuts, donuts! who are these guys? oh, that's just my buds. bacon, donuts. -my taste buds. -[ taste buds ] waffles. how about we try this new kind of fiber one cereal? you think you're going to slip some fiber by us? rookie. okay. ♪ nutty clusters and almonds, ♪ ♪ almonds. ♪ fiber one is gonna make you smile. ♪ [ male announcer ] introducing new fiber one nutty clusters and almonds. with 43% daily value of fiber for you. crunchy nutty clusters and real almond slices for your taste buds. >>> the promise of inexpensive japanese clothing drew thousands to a new store opening san francisco's union square today. a whole street had to be blocked off for shoppers lined up for the grand opening of uniqlo. it's the first west coast opening for the popular retailer. it features inexpensive japanese fashions with a techie twist. the company says the new store will employee 500 people, and it has plans to open dozens more in the u.s. >>> the doors to the new and improved san jose civic auditorium opened today, and city leaders are hoping the $15 million in renovations will attract new crowds to downtown. >> two, three! >> the new upgrades include a $1 million sound and hd video system, plus, saddle leather seating, and four times the number of rest rooms. actor/comedian george lopez is performing at the civic auditorium tomorrow, and he was supposed to speak at the ribbon cutting ceremony today, but organizers said his flight from southern california was delayed. >> hopefully you'll back. when is george lopez on tomorrow night? already sold out. >> it is. >> but scalpers, you can probably buy some tickets. so welcome. thank you all for coming. congratulations to our team that put this together. >> mayor chuck reed said the project was funded mostly by redevelopment dollars. since 1936, the san jose civic has hosted legends from frank sinatra to the rolling stones and bob dylan. >>> the oakland a's have shocked the rangers and the baseball world, and they are the al western division championship. unbelievable. >> as we enjoy watching this wonderful team celebrate this championship here in san francisco. >> champagne sales in the bay area, and bud light sales is a gone through the roof on both sides of the bay. what a time to be a bay area baseball fan. remember back in 2003 we did this. the giants and a's in the play-offs. it's happening again. both teams begin their journey toward the world series tomorrow. and we have team coverage of the play-offs. our kate longworth is in detroit following the oakland a's. but we begin with jaymee sire. on a scale of one to ten, how cool is your job right about now? >> reporter: i give it about a 10, raj, absolutely. and the excitement is definitely starting to build here at at&t park as both teams holding workouts today. but tomorrow you know it's going to be just electric here. and matt cain will be taking the mound. we know how just dominant he was in 2010, not giving up an earned run the entire postseason. and his teammates and both he are very excited to be kicking things off tomorrow night here at at&t park. >> this is one of the toughest first round matchups you can have. in fact, i was thinking today in every first round that we've been involved in since i've been here, we've either matriculated and gone on to the world series, or whoever has beaten us has gone on to the world series. very, very tough team. and especially with their pitching staff and bull pen. you know, the old adage, we're going to have to pitch and play defense and hopefully get a good early lead and protect it. >> reporter: and one of the only questions facing manager bruce bochy today regarding his starting lineup was who was going to play left field. and he did answer that question today, saying gregor blanco will get to start in left. of course the a's also ramping up for their first game in detroit. that's where we find kate longworth who has more from comerica park. >> reporter: well, jaymee, it's pouring rain here at comerica park. but before the rain came in, the tigers and the a's took the field for their workouts. tomorrow it will be jarrod parker who gets the start against the tigers' invest stin verlander. parker is the first rookie in athletic history to start in game 1 in the postseason. he is also the a's second youngest pitcher behind vida blue to get the nod for the coveted first game. although the right hander is a rookie, parker has the composure of a veteran. >> it means a lot, obviously. i don't want to put too much into it and make it out to be a huge, huge thing. we know it's a big game. and every game from here on out is huge. they have been for the last two weeks for us. so, honestly, i'm honored and what not, but i just want the move on and get ready and be as prepared as i can. >> reporter: and going up against the tigers' potent lineup, jarrod admitted to me that the a's may appear to be the underdog. but he said he really relishes the fact that all season long the a's have been kind of the david versus goliath, and it's served then well so far. i'm kate longworth, nbc bay area news. >> very good. kate longworth inside that dugout, where it is raining as she said in detroit. the giants also get ready for tomorrow. kate and jaymee are part of the team at comcast sportsnet. tune in an hour before first pitch and immediately following the final out for in depth coverage on csnbayarea and csmcalifornia. >>> the action is heating up on the water. that's where we find laurence scott who has more on the america's cup racing. hey, laurence. >> reporter: it is a beautiful night here, and a great day of racing on the bay thus far in the match cup competition. a little bit of intrigue. a little bit of surprise as both oracle team usa teams were competing. both pushing for giants. but one of them not too happy right now. take a look. the bay area is playing host to some of the best sailors in the world. 11 boats from eight countries on super fast ac-45s are fighting it out in round two of the america's cup world series. and the crowds this weekend will be some of the biggest ever to watch america's cup racing in north america due to the fact that it's fleet week here in san francisco and an estimated one million visitors will be packing the shoreline for the annual displays by the united states navy and the blue angels. and those huge crowds will also see some of the top skippers in the world humming some of the fastest boats on water in fleet and match race competitions. and one of those skippers, the winningest sir russell coutts leading his oracle crew against the swedish artemis team in the first match race. the oracle supporting the giants with the sf logo on their boats. and in what looked like a victory coutts, it was ruled he had not correctly rounded four. so he was disqualified. so artemis advances to face jimmy spithill's oracle usa team. and so the final four and the championship finals of the match racing competition all set for saturday on the bay. and now coming up at 6:00, we will go 25 years back in time to look at the 1987 america's cup where dennis conner and stars and stripes took the cup back from the awustralians, what wer you doing in 1987? i think i was doing my algebra work. >> i was there in san diego watching it in the late 80s. >> i was doing my math homework as well. >> laurence son the water. kate longworth is in detroit. jaymee is at the ballpark. rob is on the uss macon island. rob, take it away. >> that's right. we're up here on the flight deck of the uss macon island. great view watching the air show a bit earlier. laurence has you covered on the water. we have you covered at least from the flight deck up. just over my shoulder, you can see some of the helicopters there. the seahawk over to my right. that is a vertical tilt rotor osprey. it lands like a helicopter and takes off like a helicopter and flies with the propeller blades forward like an aircraft. a bit of a hybrid machine on the uss macon. this ship may not look like a prius, but it kind of is in the navy. it's a hybrid of sorts. it has both a diesel electric. and as you can hear here live, they're also doing tests. we've got the bay bridge there in the distance. and way on the other side of the bay, you've got the america's cup race, which is still ongoing at this hour. so how does all this tie in with the weather that we're seeing right now? it is cool and breezy outside. some of our current temperatures will show you that we've got some 50s and 60s around the bay. we'll be cooling off quickly as we head into tonight. the winds, well, there is some good news for you. we're seeing winds of 15 to 25 miles per hour, which is good news for the america's cup. and as we look at fleet week, the forecast there looks good. we're going to see a mixed bag of clouds for the afternoon. some patchy low clouds, followed up by mid level and high-level clouds as we head through the afternoon. the america's cup, well, there is the best forecast. we're going to see the winds like clockwork working through the afternoon. winds picking up at times. we'll see temperatures also in the 60s. of course, we got the giants with the national league division series coming up against the reds. plan on a light jacket for that game. we'll see some breezy conditions. temperatures in the 60s. and lastly, the 49ers forecast. while you're looking at football weather, temperatures in the upper 60s, partly cloudy skies. i do think we're going to get through sunday without any issues. but there is a upper low sitting offshore. by the time we get through the end of the weekend, we'll see an increasing chance of seeing a few showers around the bay area. it looks like the best chance right now will be sunday night as we head into monday. some of the forecast numbers as we go through the day tomorrow should see low to mid-70s around parts of the south bay. east bay temperatures maybe some mid 70s by livermore. but nothing like the weather we had just a little while ago earlier this week where everyone was in the 90s. not the case this weekend. continued cool. back over to. you'll see temperatures mainly in the mid-60s. the seven-day forecast is going to keep things cool for the weekend. it does look mainly shower-free, except towards sunday evening on into monday. that's when i think we may see a few showers in the bay area. this will be after our big bay area weekend. so take your pick on where to go. and if you want to come to the uss macon island, by the way tomorrow from 9:00 to 4:00, they are hosting some tours. you can not miss this ship. it's parked right before the bay bridge. the big number 8 on the side. they will be doing tours from 9:00 to 4:00 tomorrow. that's a recap of pretty much everything weather-wise related to the bay area's big weekend. so far so good. looks like a lot of fun to have this weekend. the weather should be cooperating. >> a lot of history on that air carrier. it was so neat to see. >> what if we don't have tickets to anything. can you watch it on tv? >> you can watch it on tv. but the tickets are free. so just stand in line. you can go on the ship. and the air show is free. a lot of free stuff this weekend. >>> it's the most common std in the united states. it's growing among a surprising group. see who is in danger, next. good morning! wow. want to start the day with something heart healthy and delicious? you're a talking bee... honey nut cheerios has whole grain oats that can help lower cholesterol. and it tastes good? sure does! right... ♪ wow. delicious, right? yeah. it's the honey, it makes it taste so... ♪ well, would you look at the time... what's the rush? be happy. be healthy. >>> a startling new report about the human papilloma virus, the most common std in the country. a report found the number of hpv head and throat cancers is rising, especially in men. 15 years ago, the typical throat cancer patient was an elderly man who drank and smoked heavily. now it's men and women in their 40s and 50s who never smoked and rarely drank, but are infected with hpv. we're back in a moment. stay with us. ♪ ♪ [ man ] excuse me miss. 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extend throughout the united states. i thought that i am, photographer robert dosson could photo. it's gradually become a collaborative prejudice, which is state wide and is being sponsored by the california historical society for research and labor employment at berkeley. this is part of the team. part of it is community involvement. we want people to become aware of what's around them. the records are terrible. he lives up nevada city. i told him what i was doing and he was consciencious. he had a stack of clippings about what the new deal had done in his area and walked around while he showed me sidewalks and parks and schools and gardens and camps that had been done. he said, i didn't notice. then he became mayor. it's exactly the kind of thing we want. this is or was the living new deal site about a couple months ago. it's much denser now. san francisco county is the best documented of all the california counties. we think that all of california will look like san francisco now. when you begin putting in the work of the civilian conservation core, you find it's everywhere. we are
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contest where the democratic incumbent has unexpectedly grabbed the lead. >> this the united states senate. mark shields an david brooks >> brown: mark shields and david brooks analyze the weeks news. >> woodruff: and ray suarez previews another political match to watch, thousands of miles south in venezuela, where long- time leader hugo chavez faces a young challenger. >> the election marks a watershed moment for the world's second largest oil producing nation. and a critical supplier of crude oil to the u.s. its number one customer. >> woodruff: that's all ahead on tonight's newshour. >> major funding for the pbs newshour has been provided by: carnegie corp >> and with the ongoing support of these institutions and foundations. and... >> this program was made possible by the corporation for public broadcasting. and by contributions to your pbs station from viewers like you. thank you. >> brown: more jobs, less unemployment. the september numbers offered the latest look into the u.s. economy, and the latest fuel for the fight over economic policy in the presidential campaign. it was the ki
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>>> good morning from new york. aim chris hayes. five suspects arrived in the united states early this morning to face terrorism-related charges after being extradited from the u.k. in his weekly address president obama hit people on fighting to deregulate. right now it's my great pleasure to be joined by nobel prize winning economist, joseph stiglitz. the price of inequality, how today's divided society eng dangers our future. and joy reid. dedrick muhammad and msnbc contributor karen hunter formerly of the new york and daily news editorial board. now a distinguished lecturer at the film and lecture department at hunter college. mitt romney delivered what appeared to be a pretty stunning victory in the first presidential debate wednesday night. he did this by using a time tested tactic that came as a surprise because it usually happens during the conventions, moving to the middle. at times, romney even got to the left of the president simply by denying, disowning, or apparently abandoning many of the policies he has spent many of the last years competing with. if he was caught off guard on wednesday, by thursday they had adjusted to the new entrant in the race, romney 2.0. at a rally president obama marvelled at the new software upgrade. >> when i got on the stage i met this very spirited fellow who claims to be mitt romney. but i know it couldn't have been mitt romney because the real mitt romney has been running around the country for the last year promising $5 trillion in tax cuts that favor the wealthy and yet the fellow on the stage last night looked like mitt romney said he did not know anything about that. >> also on thursday mitt romney took another huge step in his unfolding journey of self-discovery. speaking to shawn hennessy on fox news he repudiated the infamous 47% comments he made in may. >> in this case i said something that was just completely wrong. i absolutely believe, however, that my life has shown that i care about 100% and that's been demonstrated throughout my life and this whole campaign is about the 100%. when i become president it will be about helping the 100%. >>> all right. 100%. we're all in on the 100%. first let me throw it up to you guys. we've been chewing over the debate performance. i think my own take, that the president did not perform well in the debate. that's a real novel take on my part. that's what you tuned in for at home. but i don't think he performed as catastrophically poorly as other people seem to think he did. that's more or less where i'm at. maybe that's not great insightment for real hot talk. >> no, i agree with you. i think you and i might be the only two people who feel like that. i thought it was a goldilocks debate. mitt romney was too hot, barack obama was too cold, but i don't think barack obama splattered on the canvass. i think he did okay and he was very sort of methodical and purposesorial which is the way he is. he came across with the way people expect him to be without the sense of humor he tends to show in the public. i thought mitt romney was too aggressive with the moderator. i thought he came away like a bully. the only take away people came away from the debate was big bird. usually in marketing, that is a fail. >> i would disagree. i don't think mitt romney was too aggressive. i think he played it very well for himself. he gave space with the moderator to let the people on stage talk. he was willing at every opportunity to get in that extra comment and to almost always even display his own policy and attack obama. i don't think obama did anything catastrophic, he wasn't as on and romney really was. >> i think as a professor, i sort of -- it was nice that we had a wonkish debate with numbers. i wish the numbers were a little more accurate. >> that's a problem, right. i found myself, as someone who this is my job is to moderate conversations, and also i spend a lot of times thinking about this stuff. there were several points in the debates like i am lost. i am right now lost and this is all i do for a living day in and day out is look at these numbers. i'm like, where are we in the -- >> i actually thought it was very strategic on the part of the president. we have two more of these, right? we know we're a very micro waived society. we only remember the last thing that's said. he played it out perfectly. he did the art of war. all war is based on deception where we're able to attack we must seem unable. i think he was -- no, i'm serious. >> no, i know. i know. i'm glad you're -- this is -- no, i -- >> i have encountered a little bit of the same. >> thank you. >> what we'll see in the next two debates. >> right. >> but certainly having romney commit himself to be in favor of regulation, not to cut taxes for the top, these are steps in the right direction if he actually lives by them. >> not just that, but the president was able to capitalize the next day. there were ads the next day using those lies. it's like a transcript. we read these things. when we read them we think lie, lie, lie, lie, lie. >> there were a few moments. there are some people who say this is strategic. one of the thing that's interesting in understanding the debate is the continuity of it. we keep being surprised by who barack obama is when he's just been the same the whole time. every time he doesn't fight hard enough. people are like, why isn't he fighting? watch this tape that our producers put together of critiques of barack obama's debate performance in the past. this is not last night's debate. take a look. >> a lot of the pundants are saying this was not a very strong performance last night for barack obama. >> hillary clinton is running as the tough fighter, and if obama doesn't show democrats he can be a tough fighter against the republican attack machine so called but in fact it is, then, you know, democrats are going to pull back from him. >> subpar performance in the debate by senator obama and a great performance by senator clinton. >> i think they saw john mccain is the tough guy and barack obama is the cerebral guy. >> he seemed to lose control. >> john mccain clearly won this battle on points. >> so this is it every time. i actually thought that he was during the primary a subpar debater. in fact, debate after debate in which he wouldn't throw the punch and this was the big -- >> right. i think part of the issue is romney has been making so many big mistakes and has been so underperforming. a lot of us forgot he can stay say coherent things and can be good at debates and thought that president obama's campaign has been on. >> but this is where the kind of film clips that you have can be very useful because we can have pictures of romney saying the 47% and now the 100%. >> right. >> that i'm against regulation and i'm for regulation. >> right. >> when you put those clips together like you just did, it really comes out very powerful. you can't control the environment in the way that you could before. >> no. and we remember with hillary clinton, they were saying that obama didn't look up, but he didn't look up in that debate with hillary clinton. >> right. >> again, that is who he is. i think we are totally for getting that. >> not only that, but i think we're also for getting that both of these men, to your point, they were who they always have been, even in governing. barack obama has infuriated his own base because of this perception that he doesn't fight hard enough. >> recurrent theme. >> it's a recurrent theme. with mitt romney the recurrent theme among republicans, the reason he doesn't have a lot of frentsds in his party is the idea that he's a vicious debater. newt gingrich called him a liar in which he demolished supposedly the best debater in the republican party and he is known to be a flip-flopper. what did he do in that debate, he flip-flopped. everybody played the type. >> dedrick's point is smart about mitt romney in some ways was the beneficiary of lowered expectations and the beneficiary of the success of the obama campaign as painting him as a character of a ba foonish budocrat. by the time john kerry took the debate stage the bush campaign had done such a good job of making him look like a ridiculous figure and then he came out and it was like, oh, right, this is a smart, competent individual who spent his life in the united states senate. it was the same thing with mitt romney. it was a reminder for all of the characture and for all the reasons he would make a terrible president, he is not an idiot and a ba foon. he can show up at a debate and attack. >> as joanne mentioned, the take away was big bird. big bird has a twitter account that feeds probably joanne's, definitely mine, not yours, the twitter account. that has been the take away. >> i would say the take away, i think the take away has been that romney's back in this. i mean, that was the take away for the 24 hours. i saw all of the oscar the grouch, that was all great, but i think the main take away was that romney's back in this. then we have the jobs numbers. the bad thing for the romney campaign is they only had 24 hours to really run with their new policy there. >> i want to talk about the jobs numbers because they have provoked a really interesting reaction. i also want to talk a little more about this idea of the president's brand and his like wilt and how central and important that's been throughout the career. 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yeah, i think you're right. i think if you go back to david axlerod had a lot of experience in running african-american candidates in illinois. he ran barack obama's campaign for statewide office. i think you have to realize that when you're running an african-american candidate in a nondistrict situation, right, there is always this modulation that occurs and that's the way axlerod had always run barack obama. he's always, as you said, he's never angry, always calm. no drama obama. that's part of his personality. >> the two go together. i don't think it completely comes from -- >> but he could have -- what you said, you know, i think this is great that you're agreeing that we should have regulation. i think that's great, but now let's talk about where there's differences. >> right. >> i think it's great that you're agreeing that we ought to keep social security, but let's ask the question, we want to keep it in the public sector, efficient, make sure we have protection against inflation, protection against stock market volatility. you want to privatize it. >> i thought it was brilliant, actually, because what it did was for the people in his party, in mitt romney's party who are absolutely uncomfortable with him, it brought barack obama closer to him and let him know he's really over here. he's sending a message to another audience that we weren't paying attention to. maybe i'm looking too much into it. i think it was very strategic on his part. >> i don't buy into the whole kind of i strategically lost this. my friends have talked about this rope a dope. he knocked the guy out at the end. and muhammad ali, the next fight he's going to think i suck. just because you lose the debate, doesn't mean you lost the election. you make it look like you won afterwards. >> which is what george w. bush did against al gore. the next day the bush campaign talked about how al gore lied inside. this whole montage of gore rolling his eyes. and then actually the perception of the debate after the debate was that al gore had lost even though the people who watched it during the debate -- >> and who won the election? >> let's not get ahead of ourselves. >> i doubt the undecided voter is the main population watching the debate. the undecided voter is chearing the spin of the debates. >> big bird, we tend to watch these debates in a different way. one of the points that i have made with people that have called to complain about the president's performance is i would be interested in -- >> they're calling you up? >> i have a had he people that work in politics. what happened? why? why? one of the things i said is, you know, you have to sit in a roomful of, let's say women, who don't follow this every day and see how they perceived it. because i have had a few people say one of the things we're missing is that the soft performance probably played differently with men than with women and that the president veered off of who they know. >> that's very interesting. >> whereas, the sort of aggressiveness of mitt romney probably played better with men. we have to always look behind what they're doing. i don't think they would strategically let's lose the debate. there are choices they made to be above the fray. >> i think it reflects his personality. and i think over the long run it's better to play honestly and play to who you are. >> right. than to be someone you aren't. because he is not dispositionly a populist slugger. >> on the campaign trail you do see flashes of that. we didn't see flashes of that during the debate. i'm not saying to fake who he is. >> but he has it in him. >> you're not confronting anyone when you're on stage. >> the other point i make just to piggyback off of what you were saying, karen, in terms of sort of embracing romney and that might be turning off the right. what's so fascinating about the reception to this on the right is that romney substancetively moved to the left, no question, and it's also the moment that he's been most embraced by the right. >> exactly. >> the reason is this, the thing conservatives care the most about is pissing off liberals. the thing that makes them happiest is when liberals are angry at you. if you infuriate liberals by moving to the left and confounding their beloved president, they're going to love you. they don't care. >> one more thing, they don't really worry that he would actually do what he says. >> that's the other thing. that is the big question. >> they know that once he gets elected he'll move back to the right but not as far right as he was during the primaries. >> at least they think so. >> they think so. >> the larger question, is anyone going to change their opinion based on this quote, unquote, lackluster performance by the president. if you supported him, you might be disappointed, calling joy wondering what happened but you're still going to vote for the president. >> it's the undecided. >> who's undecided in this country? 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ups. not fantasy? who would have thought? i did. we did, bob. we did. got it. >>> all right. so there were new jobs numbers yesterday as happens in the first friday in every month. the previous month's job numbers are reported by the bureau of labor statistics, and some interesting things happened. so the jobs report, it's not that good of a jobs report at all. 114,000 -- not at all. it was not some amazing jobs report. 114,000 new jobs. the big headline number was that unemployment, which is drawn off -- there's two different data sets that they are using, drawn off the household survey. that's the bureau of labor statistics goes out and does a survey of individuals and says, are you working? have you found work? were you not working before? they compute a percentage. the unemployment rate has gone down below 8% which is in some ways a manageable number because mitt romney has been saying on the stump that the president said it was going below 8% and it hasn't so he has to take that out of his stump. in response to this, conservatives, not just fringe figures in the communist red state starting spinning this tale of a conspiracy to cook the books in the bureau of labor statistics. jack welch tweeted, former cege, who kno -- ceo of ge, he says this is unbelievable. they're messing with the numbers. steve forbes, former gop presidential candidate, berkeley man himself, retweeted it and said, jack is right. and then there was this entire universe. i joked about it. you're out of your mind if you don't think these numbers were cooked. yesterday jack welch went on my colleague "chris matthews show" and this is what transpired. >> you put out the word here, unbelievable jobs numbers, fair enough. these chicago guys will do anything so they change the numbers. what evidence do you have that they got to the bos? the chicago guys got to the bureau of labor statistics and jimmied these numbers by .3%. >> i have no evidence, i just raised the question. >> you came out and asserted not a question mark or talked about a coincidence, you said these chicago guys will do anything so they change the numbers. do you want to take that back? jimmying with these numbers. there was corruption here, infiltration, getting to the -- it's not funny, jack. you're talking about the president of the united states playing with the bureau of labor statistics numbers. this is nixon stuff. >> chris, don't lose it now. >> i'm not losing it. look at my face. i'm not losing it. >> i can't see your face. >> do you want to take back the charge there is corruption? >> i don't want to take back one word in that tweet. >> i want to make a joke to comcast thank you for making that possible and buying us. >> that was a great exchange. i am sort of amazed by this spectacle. you know, it's not a plausible idea. you worked in the government, in the white house under clinton. it's absurd. explain to us -- walk us through. we shouldn't have to debunk this, but walk us through why it's not credible, possible, plausible. >> let me give you a story that illustrates why it's so implausible. back when president clinton was running for his second term, the bureau of labor statistics and bureau of economic affairs that comes up with the gdp number were changing the way we measure gdp growth, okay? and they were going to something that is a technical term called chain weighted gdp. >> sure. yeah. >> and the result of going to chain weighted gdp was that the gdp number would be lower than in the old methodology. the president was furious because everyone thought they were coming up with a number that was lower. he said, can't you stop this? can't you -- can't you wait until after the election? we said, no. they're an independent agency. we can't touch them. what we can do is try to explain what the numbers are. >> right. >> how they're derived, what does chain weighted do. the president then went on a campaign to try to explain -- >> the infamous chain weighted explanation tour. >> that was the high point of the presidency. but the point is no president except maybe nixon would actually try to change what the bureau of labor statistics does or the bea does. these are really independent statistical agencies. the idea that they would do that is -- it's, i say literally absurd. >> in fact, bos is headed by a political appoint tee but there is no political appoint tee m that position. it's actually vacant. right now it's headed up by an interim head who is himself a career bos person. there's not even a political appointee heading up bos. >> but the history and culture of these independent agencies is extraordinarily strong and it goes throughout -- i'm saying goes through the council of economic advisors which is politically appointed in a sense. senate confirmed. we felt absolutely, you know, very strongly, i think this is bipartisan, that you don't monkey with the numbers because that would destroy your credibility. >> right. >> and the one thing, you know, that we still have is credibility in the numbers. i mean, the one thing after president reagan, they couldn't jimmy with the poverty numbers so they wanted to stop collecting the numbers. that's one thing. you stop collecting the numbers but you don't monkey with them. >> i want to talk about the implications of this. to me this gets to the real core of the way politics is waged and the way the sit zen ri feels about the pillar of institutions. this is being torn a thunder. the question is whether you can engage in democratic political debates whether this is the ubiquitous feel of people in the country right after this. ♪ hi. 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i mean, if the bush administration said something was so, i learned to not think that it was necessarily so and to exercise skepticism, but institutionally on the right there's a lot of incentive for people to stoke that. people can make money and have careers doing that. i think there's less of that on the left, but you end up in a situation where we don't have anything independent, anything that we feel like we can sort of all come around and trust and say these are what the numbers are, let's have a debate on this. >> i mean, there's this whole debate about we can't choose our facts. we can choose our interpretation of the facts. what they're trying to move is where we have to choose our facts. >> right. >> there are other countries where this has become a problem. >> it's a huge problem. >> where there's been a big debate about what the -- >> matriculation rate is, yeah. >> that really has been looked at closely because businesses have to make decisions. workers when they're trying to decide what is a reasonable wage increase, they have to know what is the adjustment for inflation. so it is very corrosive, you might say, to driving the economy, this failing economy. >> if you can't trust in the numbers. let me make this point as a devil's advocate for people expressing skepticism on the right about these numbers. the number of new jobs found in the household survey, not the headline number of 114,000, it's an a no, ma'am mow louse number, the point is these monthly job numbers, they're estimates. it's a massive economy. they're trying to find using these statistical methods changes in a very large economy. every month afterwards the numbers get revised. they're all over the place. >> in this case they revised the earlier numbers up by some $85, 86,000. this means we have created more jobs in the previous months that have not been added. you talk about manipulation. they should have increased that number by that amount and that would have even been more accurate, but they didn't do that. that's the best estimate they had at the moment. >> right. also to the adp survey that comes out a little before the jobs numbers. it's almost always more jobs than you end up getting in the bureau of labor statistics. there's questions of the different methodologies of figuring this out. i think what's more pressing for what you were talking about in terms of politics, back when bush was in the office, when the left wanted to escape from the bush administration, they watched "the west wing." they didn't stop believing that bush was president or stop believing that any numbers were true or create their own polls in which job kerry was up by 15 points. where you actually had -- >> there was a little bit of that. >> right. but, i mean, the point is that the right i think has retreated into their own universe. they've created their own metrics of polling. they've retreated into a feel good universe in which they are winning, they are the majority. barack obama was never elected president. acorn put him in there. >> i think that's the universal impulse. the question is whether it's being cultivated or not. >> i want to say one thing about the difficulties of figuring out how many jobs are really being created. it's not an easy thing as you were saying. one of the problems is that when you turn the economy from, you know, sort of normal growth to either a turning point going up or down, the statistics have a real difficulty. one of the reasons is that the surveys go to typically establish enterprises. >> right. >> but when you have the turning point you're creating new turning points. you're not going to survey those because you don't know where they are. and that's where the household survey picks up things that are not in the establishment survey. >> right. >> on the other hand, one of the real problems is that we have what you call seasonal adjustments because there's a pattern over the year. before christmas we create normally more jobs. as we go into the summer, college kids in school go into the labor force and then come out. and when you go into a business cycle, theses nal adjustments get -- >> in fact, kathryn rampell, "new york times" reporter, has a great piece that we'll put up about the fact that these numbers, the 800,000 number, which is high and seems somewhat a nam mow louse, may be partly the result of an arrow in the statistical adjustment. people are leaving for college earlier than they used to. >> one of the larger problems here, when facts aren't facts anymore. unfortunately we have a culture that has fostered that. we saw in florida with the election between bush and gore, there was something funny. 9/11. was that funny? should we have gone to iraq. there are a lot of people that have eroded public trust. >> i have more sympathy to the distrust than some others in that institutions have performed very poorly and that's produced some of that trust. joy reid of the grie owe.com and karen hunter, thanks for being here this morning. >> thank you. >>> mitt romney finds his inner >>> mitt romney finds his inner george w. bush when we get back. or get the yard ready for cool an energy weather?n to size? the answer? a lot less. the great american fix-up is going on now... ...with new projects every week and big savings every day. so you can do what needs to be done. today. more saving. more doing. that's the power of the home depot. right now, owens corning ecotouch attik insulation is only $11.87 a roll. >>> my story of the week. the return of fuzzy math. the contemporary republican party faces a fundamental political problem, and it is this. the policy position to which the party is most committed also happens to be very unpopular. over the last decade the single most urgent durable domestic policy priority of the republican party is reducing taxes on wealthy americans. if there is one thing you can bank on when the republicans are in power, it is that. happened twice during george w. bush's term in which he pushed through tax cuts that totaled a combined $2.7 trillion. when the tax cuts were set to expire in 2010, republicans announced they would happily let taxes rise and let unemployment benefits expire which would be unprecedented under such dire positions rather than raise taxes for the top 1 percent percent. they won that standoff leading to $225 billion in tax cuts for the top 1% just over the last two years. once the republicans took the house they moved quickly to vote for the ryan budget which passed the house the first time on a vote of 235-193. it would have cut taxes for those at the top even further. the ryan budget died in the senate. undeterred, ryan unveiled a second version of his budget. this one would have cut $1.76 trillion from the taxes of the top one-half of the top 1% over ten years. which brings us to the current campaign. during the republican primary every candidate in the field offered tax cuts that it turned out would most benefit the wealthy. a number of the plans proposed, herman cain's, newt gingrich's came right out and said explicitly they lowered taxes for the wealthy and some raised taxes at the bottom quite explicitly. i suppose it is to mitt romney's credit he did not have the most cruelly aggressive tax plan in the primary. it's underappreciated that he is currently proposing at least three major separate tax cuts all of which would disproportionately benefit the rich. first, he's proposing that all of the bush tax cuts be made permanent. the tax cut of $3 trillion for the wealthiest over the next ten years. second, he's proposing to cut the corporate tax rate from 35% to 25%. the tax policy center estimates that just over half of the corporate tax burden ultimately falls on the top 1% so romney's plan amounts to a cut of $43,000 for each household in the top 1%. and then there's the now famous $5 trillion tax cut mitt romney is or at least was proposing which he says isn't a tax cut because he'll close unspecified loopholes and deductions. we all know inequality is growing. the 1% have pulled away from everyone else and perversely the recovery has only made that trend worse. it violates' voters basic and appropriate sense of fairness to further skew the tax code towards those who are doing the best. in fact, some doing much better year after year than anyone else. why they ask should mitt romney, who makes more than $20 million a year and sits on a fortune of $230 million only pay 14% in taxes? the polling on this is remarkably robust and incredibly consistent. heck, even a majority of republicans support higher taxes for the wealthy as several polls have found. so if you're a republican seeking the highest office in the land, you've got a real problem. on the one hand, you absolutely must advocate for and push through tax cuts for the wealthy knowing full well the electorate as a whole does not like or want them. so what do you do? well, up until this point mitt romney has floundered a bit, but wednesday at the debate he fully embraced the very effective strategy used by the last man to successfully pull off this particular bait and switch, george w. bush. the center piece was a large tax cut skewed heavily to the wealthy. rather than defend this tax cut to the wealthy, he obfuscated and misled about the tax cuts. >> everybody who pays taxes ought to get tax relief. a of my plan is in place the wealthiest americans will pay a higher percentage of taxes than they do today and the poorest of americans, 6 million families, 7 million people won't pay any tax at all. >> notice the slight of hands. the wealthiest americans will pay a higher percentage of taxes than they do today. not a higher percentage of their income in taxes since that would be an outright lie. very common bit of conservative bit of misdirection used to hide the distributional tax cuts they're proposing. for instance, even in herman cain's explicitly progressive world of a 9/9/9 flat tax, you can imagine the wealthiest households would still pay a majority of total income tax revenue. that doesn't reflect how progressive or fair the taxation system is. it reflects just how unequal incomes are. bush did it again in the next debate too. >> my plan is that the wealthy people pay 62% of the taxes today after which they pay 64%. this is a fair plan. you know why? because the tax code is unfair for people at the bottom end of the economic ladder. if you're a single mother making $22,000 a year today and you're trying to raise two children, for every additional dollar you earn you pay a higher marginal rate on that dollar than someone making $200,000 and that's not right. >> at the time this drove observers to distraction. bush was running on a huge tax cut for the wealthy and refused to admit that. paul clugman nearly broke his keyboard. the big lesson we can point out is that a candidate can get away with saying things that are demonstrably untrue as long as the untruths involve big numbers. romney has embraced the substance of bush's domestic policy. now he's come around to embracing bush's style to sell it. confronted with his $5 trillion tax cut which would skew towards the wealthy, romney refused to own the consequences of his own proposal. he used the same share of taxes slight of hand bush got away with. >> i'm not going to reduce the share of taxes paid by high income people. >> romney has an even more sophisticated game than bush had with three principles that are impossible to satisfy together. lower taxes, revenue neutrality and taxes being lowered on high income people. if you point to one of those cards he waives at the other two. we've seen this before. a lot of good folks got fooled the first time. so it's all the more true that those reporting on this campaign have a duty to make sure voters are not fooled again. we can start by listening to romney himself. >> we're going to cut taxes on everyone across the country by 20%, including the top 1%. >> that was mitt romney before he found his inner bush. but hear me now. if mitt romney is elected president, taxes for the top 1% will be reduced. if i had mitt romney's money, i'd even bet $10,000 on it. we'll see whether nobel prize win sner joe stiglitz or avik roy want to take that bet. begi. ♪ ♪ introducing a stunning work of technology. ♪ introducing the entirely new lexus es. and the first ever es hybrid. this is the pursuit of perfection. and the first ever es hybrid. online outfit piccolo headphones buy now broadway show megapixels place to sleep little roadster war and peace deep sea diving ninja app hipster glasses 5% cash back sign up to get 5% everywhere online through december. only from discover. flavor, meet food. it's time for swanson flavor boost. concentrated broth in easy to use packets. mix it into skillet dishes, for an instant dose of... hell-o! 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[ male announcer ] try new alka-seltzer plus severe allergy well, if itmr. margin?margin. don't be modest, bob. you found a better way to pack a bowling ball. that was ups. and who called ups? you did, bob. i just asked a question. it takes a long time to pack a bowling ball. the last guy pitched more ball packers. but you... you consulted ups. you found a better way. that's logistics. that's margin. find out what else ups knows. i'll do that. you're on a roll. that's funny. i wasn't being funny, bob. i know. >>> good morning from new york, i'm chris hayes here with joe stiglitz, winner of the nobel prize in economics and avik roy, a member of mitt romney's health care advisory group. we're talking about tax policy. one of the most central things i think to come out of the debate was debate over mitt romney's proposal for tax policy, which is a 20% rate cut across the board, but he also says there's these other conditions, right, that it will be revenue neutral and that he's not going to lower taxes on people in the high income. and the question is can you get all three of those principles to work together? joe, you were talking about the broad principles you want out of a tax system, raising revenue, right? we want to raise enough revenue to fund the government, which i don't think we're doing. we have taxes that are a percentage of gdp at a 50 or 60 year low. you want fairness. and you want to promote growth. you were speaking about warren buffet before i cut you off to go to break. >> warren buffet has edicts that are wrong for somebody like him to pay a lower tax rate than a secretary. you tax -- i would feel a lot more comfortable if romney came out and said i agree with that principle. the buffet principle is correct. it's not just a question of fairness, it's a question of efficiency and growth. because if you tax speculation at a lower rate than people who work for a living, you're encouraging speculation, resources into speculation. the main point i make in my book is paying a high price for inequality that's been generated by a tax code that is distorted towards the rich. a vast majority of these capital gains go to the rich, particularly the taxes on speculation. >> i want to ask you about this because this strikes me as something that liberals worry a lot about, think a lot about, about capital gains. one loophole called carried interest. carried interest is a way in which particularly fund managers can declare the income they derive from managing the funds which looks to all of us like essentially their income, their wages and the capital gains benefit and pay out a 15% rate. that's a loophole that's been protected by democrats and republicans. chuck schumer has seemed to keep that. rupert murdock i remember tweeting this year he was criticizing that. is that the kind of thing you or the brain trust around romney would like to see that kind of loophole closed? >> i can't remember the exact numbers but i think what it raises for the government is $15 billion or $4 billion. some tiny number that really doesn't do much. i can understand that there's a lot of equity or egalitarianism issues with it. >> the capital gains task overall is very significant. >> what's interesting is that the wall street journal editorial page is constantly complaining that mitt romney isn't aggressive enough about cutting capital gangs. >> paul ryan gets rit of capital gains in his first budget. >> mitt romney doesn't. his focus is on lowering income tax rates which a lot of small businesses pay and lowering the deductions or limiting the itemized deductions. >> let me grant you the maximal amount of good faith to mitt romney for a second. let me say that he really is committed to revenue neutrality. he is committed to not reducing taxes on the highest income. i don't believe that but let's grant it for the moment. he said this thing at the debate which i thought was right. none of this is passed by the president himself. you have a dialogue with the legislature. you just cannot credibly tell me sitting at this table that a tax bill that comes out of this house republican caucus, they'll let a bill get out of that house without cuts for the top, elimination of the estate tax which is explicitly advocated by the romney campaign, all sorts of other ways in which taxes can be reduced at the top. it's what they're committed to ideologically. it's what their record is doing. i can't see it be the case. >> i completely disagree with that. i think the orthodoxy of the conservative movement on taxes is simplification. lower the rate but also get rid of the swiss cheese. >> all of that. >> make the code simpler. >> let's talk about what's the orthodoxy and what's the reality? there's an actual governing record of the republican party over the last ten years which has not been, i'm sorry to tell you, simplification. in fact it is punching swiss cheese loopholes into the code. the only consistent theme of the actual republican party record is reducing the burden of high income earners and taxes. it has not been simplification. >> there are lots of other distortions that need to be addressed. you know, one of the things that is a real source of weakening of the economy is the fact that you can move money to the cayman islands or these other tax agents and once you create a trust there, as long as you don't bring the money back to the united states, it's not taxed. and so that encourages jobs, the investment to stay abroad, not to bring the money back to create jobs in the united states. now i'd like to hear dant romney to say i'm against those kinds of foreign tax loopholes. i'd like to hear him say go back to the estate tax. united states has become the country with the least equality of opportunity of all the advanced industrial countries. more -- less -- a proposal to take away the estate tax would increase the plutocracy of our society. people like warren buffet has said that's wrong. >> yes. >> i'd like to hear romney say i think it's wrong. in fact, he's doing everything to avoid paying the taxes to create a new plu to being kra si. >> there's a fairness argument in the other direction. an immigrant who comes to this country and builds a small business all on his own -- >> nobody creates anything on their own. >> the post office and all of that. >> they take advantage of an educated population that comes from our public schools. nobody does it on their own. that rhetoric is destructive. >> wait a minute. if they build that business on their own. whatever you want to call it. >> in concert. >> in the flourishing of american society and the community and all the great things that we all love, once that person dies, oftentimes because of the estate tax he has to sell that business instead of passing it on. >> often times this is a tiny, tiny incident. >> the percentage of these people is negligible and we've actually put provisions in our tax code to allow people to spread that over, say in the case of farms, over 14, 15 years. and we can do more. i can understand for that very small number for which that's a problem we have ways of handling that that does not force the sale. >> that brings up a question which i'd like to hear. so i'm a liberal or i'm a skeptical egalitarian. i'm one of the people i mentioned in the poles in the last hour who doesn't have a big ideological commitment. i do think the equity argument makes sense to me. i think the rich are paying too little in taxes. i'd like to see that go up. you could choose an issue if you were mitt romney, you can choose one, say carried interest which isn't a lot of money, but you can say, you know what, there are some real inequalities in our tax code. i'm going to go after carried interest, or tax hachbs, or preserve the estate tax. you could choose some kind of egalitarian issue but there's nothing he's chosen. >> you're saying two different things that are contradicting each other. he wants to limit the deductions. he's not going to do that because congress will never pass it. you're saying he's not advocating anything that increases taxes or revenues on the rich. that's precisely what limiting deductions do. >> he hasn't -- look, if the thing that was on the table was explicitly limited deduction, we could debate that. he's hand waived in the direction of limiting deduction as one possible way he might be able to get the math to work. it's like nailing jello to the wall. we can't debate the plan because we don't know what it looks like. >> a number of people in the think tank world have assessed this which claims there's an $85 billion short fall. if you use romney's plan there's $85 billion left over and that the middle class will have to pay a higher tax as a result. first of all, romney has said the middle class will not pay higher taxes. there are a number of other things that the tax policy center didn't consider that amount to 150 to $200 billion of extra revenue that would fall on people over $200 billion a year. >> it's interesting to pay the george w. bush card. one of the ways he got away with the tax cuts was pushing people off the rolls in income taxes. he says there's 7 million people who aren't going to pay income tax. that's exactly what has produced the infamous 47% who don't pay income taxes. and one of the other things that i have seen develop over time in the think tank world or the thinking of the right which is articulated in romney's 47% comment is the idea that not only, you know, everyone's always wanted to cut taxes, republican party, governor norquist pledge. you need to raise taxes at the bottom and middle class. the tax center says that's what the romney plan does. romney says absolutely not. in the republican party, their plans would do that. there is a lot of ichblt lek actual thinking in the party. that goes to the candidates statements for actually raising taxes at the bottom. not just cutting. >> the basic economics is very simple. if you're committed to reducing the deficit and if you are going to say that we're going to reduce the deficit at least significantly by more tax revenue, you're in a pickle because you cannot say we're going to get more tax revenue at the same time and we're going to lower everybody's taxes. i mean, that's an inconsistency. unless you do what the first bush always talked about doing is we're going to grow the economy enough to make for t. we know what happened in the first bush administration. they didn't grow the economy enough. >> the truth about one of mitt romney's most galling lines in wednesday's debate after this. i brought your stuff. you don't have to do this. yes i do. i want you to keep this. it'd be weird. take care. you too. [ sighs ] so how did it go? he's upset. 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>> the real point is it's recognizing reality that these banks are too big to fail. we can't deny that. and -- >> barack obama and mitt romney both supported t.a.r.p., we should note, precisely on that logic. >> but the real point is it is the republicans especially that resisted doing what really needed to be done about the too big to fail banks which is to break them up. so to now say, you know, if you -- what he should have said, and i would have welcomed that, is to say let's break up these banks. >> yeah. >> that would have been a real turn to the left of mitt romney. >> right. >> that would be a move in the right direction, but to say and to pretend that they are not too big to fail, you're not going to have the kind of regulation and we're just going to let them be is putting us back in the state where we were in 2007 where we know what we will do. >> avik, would you like to see the breakup? >> i don't speak for the romney campaign on any issue, certainly not on banking legislation, but personally, yes. that's why they're too big to fail. there are certain things you can do. the capital requirements are toothless. they con strain banks and they're very hard for regulators to see what banks own. >> mitt romney endorsed capital requirements. >> capital requirements, it's important to have them, but they have to be soft. not like bobble 3 is is a complete disaster. >> before we get into bobble 3 let me explain what capital requirements are because that seems like a necessary part of this. the nature of being a bank is that you lend more money than you have sitting around at any one moment. that is how a bank works, right. the question is what is that -- how much money do you have to have sitting around? that's essentially what a capital requirement is. how much has to be sitting there so if something terrible happens, you can go into the capital that you have on hand, write that check and not suddenly be insolvent. that's what capital requirements are. i want to talk to someone who is one of the architects behind dodd-frank, congresswoman maxine waters, right after we take this break. >> you'll find his family's handmade wooden water tanks on hundreds of new york city rooftops. even today these tanks are shaped by hand with half century old tools. he says you don't throw out what works, you just build upon it. for more on your business watch this sunday morning at 7:30 on msnbc. >>> we're discussing financial regulatory reform, dodd-frank, the role it played in the campaign. alexis, we had a brief discussion about what capital requirements are so we're all on the same page. this is part of the problem. it's a problem we face on the program all the time which is dodd-frank sounds obscure. it's very technical, but we just all saw what happened with the crash, right? if we don't get this stuff right, it's massively, massively destructive, and yet it seems that after it all happens, we passed some laws, some stuff happens in the background and that's when the lobbyists come in and that's when all the people who can wield their supposed expertise has this powerful tool to destroy attempts to reign in the banks. if you're home watching and feel like we're throwing around terms, i'll explain them. this stuff is understandable, it really is. it's really, really vitally important. alexis. >> i wanted to mention that mitt romney says he wants more transparency, leverage limits. i was excited to hear that but i was confused. when people talk about transparency in relationship to the dodd-frank, it's about plus rules. plus execution facilities which are like exchanges where derivatives are supposed to get more transparency. the republicans in the house and the senate have been making themselves very busy trying to gut those rules. this is something i debated on the show. there's a couple of different bills. but what mitt romney said that he wants transparency, he's not consistent with what he sees from his peers in the republican party. >> this is one of the big questions. is there room between mitt romney and i know you don't speak for the campaign on these issues. is there room between mitt romney on financial reform and what is the actual record of the actual republican party which has actually been governing during this period of time which has really been fighting? >> this is really important. let me say that you mentioned before that we don't know exactly the financial positionings of banks. one of the reasons is that they're engaged in all of these credit default swaps. you go back to the question people were asking in the great debt restructuring was coming up. nobody knew how it would affect american banks. one of the reason is there are all of these over the counter nontransparent and we didn't fix it. why didn't we fix it? because of the bank lobbyists and the republican congressmen that made it essentially impossible to get legislation that would make more transparency. >> and sometimes democrats too. >> sometimes democrats too. >> overwhelmingly -- >> let me just note that there's a reason that they fought that. it's a very lucrative market. we talk about this on the show a lot. the derivatives market -- >> $8 billion a year. one of the principles of economics is very simple. when you have open, transparent markets that become competitive, and the problem with competition is it drives down profits. >> right. >> and, you know, that's bad if you're a bank. >> highlight for this discussion i think it's highlighting the great opportunity that's missed in the debates. romney's able to throw in real quick and critique president obama for lack of regulation but we never got to hear a defense in the discussion about what's really hang around regulation, why we are where we are. that's what we're having here. but if that's not held out in presidential debates even if it's a complicated subject, to make the statements it's not something american people can use. >> i want to bring in congresswoman maxine waters, democrat of california and a member of the house committee on financial services. congresswoman you were instrumental in developing and writing dodd-frank. i wanted to get your reaction to mitt romney's critique of it during the debate. >> well, thank you very much. i was more than surprised listening to mitt romney distort dodd-frank. as a matter of fact, he knows better with qualified mortgages, it's so important that we have this feature that we passed in dodd-frank because what we're saying to the banks is this. they must be sustainable. they must be safe mortgages. you must verify the income. you must know about the debt. you cannot have risky features such as balloon payments and interest only and all of that. so qualified mortgages and this issue, this item in dodd-frank is extremely important. what mitt romney did was he basically said the banks are not lending money because of this qualified mortgage feature of dodd-frank. that's not true. first of all, the regulatory agency submitted its regs way back in april and now they're getting public comments. it doesn't go into effect until january '13. he led people to believe that somehow we had put the banks at risk or we were causing them not to make loans and that is not true. the average american needs to understand that we all aspire to homeownership. we know that. but many people were led into these risky mortgages, these exotic mortgages without having to have their income verified. they didn't understand. they didn't know. they thought it was a chance to own a home but low and behold the devil came due when they could not make the payments. the payments increased because these exotic loans sometimes the interest rates increased by, you know, three fold. really put them in a position where they could not afford them. and so you have all of these foreclosures. that's where these foreclosures came from. that's why we put in qualified mortgages so that the banks would be responsible for making good, safe, sound, sustainable mortgages. and mitt romney had it all wrong and he was misleading. >> congresswoman, i want to talk about what the next fights are going to be in the next congress over dodd-frank. part of the -- >> i'm sorry, i can't hear you. you're breaking up. >> i want to talk about what the fietsz are -- >> hello. >> i guess i'm completely losing you. let's see if we can fix that. let's take a break and come right back. mething fresh. a clean house. 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[ male announcer ] marie callender's puts everything you've grown to love about sunday dinner into each of her pot pies. tender white meat chicken and vegetables in a crust made from scratch. marie callender's. it's time to savor. >>> dodd-frank. it's an 848 page bohemuth that's going to be followed by thousands and thousands of pages of new regulations. these new regulations are even invading the freedom of everyday americans, not just the banks and the corporations, but citizens. there's always been something uniquely brilliant about america. i don't believe the president understands this fundamental secret of america and day by day job killing regulation by regulation, bureaucrat by bureaucrat he's crushing the dream and the dreamers. >> mitt romney giving a speech at the university of chicago where that kind of sentiment goes over very well on march 19th. a very, very different note he was striking than the kind of very warm words that he had for regulation in the abstract of the debate the other night. we have congressman maxine waters on the line and we're talking about this point that mitt romney had maide basically saying it is the delay in promulgating the rules of an acceptable standard mortgage that is the cause of the fact that it's hard to get a mortgage. joe, you seem to be skeptical. >> absolutely wrong. the basic thing is we all knew the direction in which these new regulations would go. those directions are we don't want the toxic mortgages that we had. we don't want the liar loans. those were the things that got us into trouble that required a government bailout. sure there's going to be some fine tuning, but the banks went back to responsible lending where they give a loan, they keep skin in the game. we all know that's the direction we want to go. that's the direction the banks should want to go if they were going to rely on no bailout. >> right. >> the biggest problem with dodd-frank, the real critique from the conservative view is too big to fail. it enshrines too big to fail. i understand there's regulations around how they manage their businesses which they don't like, but at the other end of the spectrum they have a competitive advantage around small businesses. >> enshrined is a weird word. you can't say it enshrines it unless there's an alternative to getting rid of it. there was a democratic proposal to limit bank sizes. >> let me make a point. there are a number of ways of limiting. we shouldn't get bogged down in the particular way. the point is if romney came out and said i want to limit the size, let's have a good discussion about the best way of doing it, i would feel a lot better. >> right. >> he hasn't sid that. what he wants to say is we don't want to designate them too big to fail even though they are too big to fail and we don't want to do anything about the too big to fail. >> yeah. >> i also want to make the point, the too big to fail is if a bank goes under. it says we cannot bail you out. you put it into receiver ship, you wipe out the shareholders, you fire manages. , you fire the board, you break it up and you sell everything off. if you cannot sell pieces off the treasury gives you a loan and then the banks have to pay in to pay that loan back. they tried to make it so that the banks had to put into a fund so that the treasury wouldn't need to provide that credit and that was voted no by every single republican in the house. >> that's right. well, this was actually what -- yeah. this is where mitt romney was absolutely misleading. he talked about we had given 5 big banks a pass. this is absolutely not true. as a matter of fact, these are $50 billion banks and the banks such as aig and what's so important about this is this for the american public to understand, if these big banks fail and we don't have a way of dissolving them in an orderly fashion, they could bring this economy down. this is why we had to bail out all of these big banks and aig, but now with dodd-frank we have an orderly way of dismantling them, of dissolving them and as it was just described, not only do we have all of the rules in place about how you do this, we have the rules in place about how you pay for it. these big banks must have capital requirements. they cannot operate in a risky way without having capital requirements and this interconnectedness. this puts us all at risk. dodd-frank really does deal with this in a very responsible way. as a matter of fact, what mitt romney was saying was trying to imply that somehow this was going to imperil small banks and regional banks, not true. this is too big to fail institutions. >> congresswoman, let me just express some skepticism. if we have -- there's a thing called a living will in dodd-frank which is what we're talking about. >> yes, that's right. >> you're a big bank and you're systemically important financial institution. you have to say this is how in the event of a crisis you break us up. we can go through the normal process of bankruptcy. the skepticism i have is if there's this big panic, and people are saying if you do this which is what happened at lee man, all of that stuff is going to fly right out the window. i guess i don't have trust in the political system to resist the pressure that will be brought to bear in the actual moment of crisis. so i want you to respond to that right after we take this break. >> all right. thank you. >> great point. ♪ [ male announcer ] it started long ago. the joy of giving something everything you've got. it takes passion. and it's not letting up anytime soon. at unitedhealthcare insurance company, we understand that commitment. and always have. so does aarp, an organization serving the needs of americans 50 and over for generations. so it's no surprise millions have chosen an aarp medicare supplement insurance plan, insured by unitedhealthcare insurance company. like all standardized medicare supplement plans, they help cover some of the expenses medicare doesn't pay. 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(together) happy. i love logistics. >>> chip worked with senator ted kauffman, the delaware senator who wanted to break up the big banks tweets me to make the point was that the obama administration opposed brown kauffman. so this wasn't entirely at all a partisan thing. it came up against a lot of resistance in a lot of parties to break up the big banks. congresswoman waters, talk me down from my concern about the fact that if we get to a crisis, that basically size is the issue and everything is subsidiary to that. if we still have these big banks, even if we designate them, when the rubber hits the road and the crisis is at the door and everyone's hair is on fire, we're still just going to write them a blank check. >> no. absolutely not. first of all, you have to understand that when we experienced this crisis in this country with the failure of lehman brothers and all of a sudden we saw that our economy was at great risk, we were on the road to a depression, we didn't know what to do. nobody -- we had no rules. >> right. >> for how to deal with this so it has been very complicated and a lot of hard work, but we came up with dodd-frank and we came up with the designation so that we can have the living wills as a part of how we dissolve these institutions. we have come a long way from where we were when lehman brothers failed, so you've got to give it an opportunity to work. we can't say that we can't do anything or that we simply want to break up the big banks and because we've not been able to do it in the way that some of us would like to do, that we can't trust that the living wills and all of that that we put in place will help to dissolve these institutions. but i think you've got to give it a chance. i think we've come a long way. >> the one thing that's interesting, it was just written about. they're actually starting to price in the resolution authority. >> wait. >> let me break down what i mean by that. the credit default market is insurance on companies or contracts going belly up and -- >> it's a lot of two sided bets. are you going to go bankrupt or not? basically dedrick and i make a bed bet, is alexis going to go bankrupt or not. >> people look to see what the overall health is. >> the likelihood of you going bankrupt? >> exactly. they're starting to price in this idea that the resolution authority will make senior bond holders take a hit. >> when we're making about bet about the likelihood of big institutions going belly up, we're making the bet with the knowledge that if it does go belly up we won't get protected. the person has to east some of the costs of that because the taxpayer won't come in. this is reflecting the markets when they're pricing the risk of bankruptcy of the big institutions are starting to price in the fact as the congresswoman said there is going to be a penalty. they won't get bailed out. i want to thank maxine waters, democratic congresswoman. i'm sorry we have to go. come by our table any time you're in new york. we'll have you on. congresswoman maxine waters from california. >> thank you. >>> all right. a follow up to my exchange with rudy juligiuliani this week rig after this. what? 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raise over the three-year term. the mayor of chicago, usually we do now we know. but today i wanted to take a moment to tie up a loose end. after the debate on wednesday night, former mayor rudy giuliani and i had a somewhat contentious exchange. the mayor was making a case for smaller government, to stop as he put it feeding the beast. and i asked whether contracts would save homeland security or contracts his consulting firm secures with government count as feeding the beast. he said i was engaging in a personal attack and i was flat out wrong, that his firm had no contracts with dhs and took no money. i vastly overestimated the business his firm does with the federal government. giuliani representative told us yesterday his firm is also not pursuing any federal contracts either for itself or any of its clients. but while he was correct he never had a contract specifically with dhs it is true in 2002 his consulting firm received a $1.1 million contract from the justice department. given how much revenue his firm brings in, that hardly represents a major part of its business but it's not nothing either. more broadly mr. jaul onny's consulting business has had clients like a software company who themselves sold products or devices to the federal government landing contracts worth millions of dollars. the point here really isn't about mr. giuliani. i raise the issue because mr. giuliani, romney, most republicans draw a sharp line between the private sector and the vicious and predatory public sector while at the same time advocating for $2 trillion more in defense spending. they also overseen the creation of a vast, largely privately contracted world of surveillance and security that provides a whole lot of private sector jobs and healthy paychecks from the taxpayer dime. we shouldn't pretend that the public and private sector exist in two different worlds. the overlap is increasing and there's a good lot of private profit to be made by navigating the borders between the two. i can appreciate mr. giuliani was taken aback that i broached this when the topic at hand was the debate. i would love to have the former mayer to accept our invitation to explore the issue further and in depth. i want to find out what my guests know now that they didn't know when the week began. alexis grold steen. >> they are putting their bodies between bulldozers and clear cuts to prevent the southern part of the construction of the keystone excel pipeline. it's an incredible story. we saw actress daryl hannah get arrested, 20 something named maggie get arrested for sitting up in a tree and she's facing $11,000 in bail aa 78-year-old great grandmother who is charged with trespassing on her own land for trying to stop construction of the keystone excel. >> we followed the keystone pipeline. everybody anticipated it would be built and there was a tremendous amount of organizing and social movement energy put behind blocking it. >> yes. >> its fate remains unclear and this is another part of the direct action strategy to make sure it doesn't get built so that the tar sands and all the carbon don't get released into the air. >> what we watch the people to know is understand there are government programs out there that are designed to help people recover from this massive foreclosure crisis and wall street crisis we've been talking about. one is the independent foreclosure review. i want to get this out. by december 31st if people don't apply for the program you'll lose your toon to get the assistance. the assistance is for those who went through some type of foreclosure proceeding in 2009, 2010. they can call the phone number 888-952-9105. because a big concern is that these programs will pass and the average american will never get the opportunity to get some of the damages they need to help recover and move the economy forward. >> this is -- deadline november -- december 31st, the end of this year. we'll put that on our blog and tumbler and tweet that out. that's if you've been through foreclosure and looking for assistance. joe. >> i think what we learned this week is both candidates seem to be concerned about having a fair tax system. the real challenge is given the fact that america has become the most unequal society, given the fact that america has become advanced industrial country, the country with the least equality of opportunity, it seems to me an interesting question to get the two candidates to try to express how it is that they're going to achieve this objective. not only through the tax code but through expenditure programs. >> yes. >> how are you going to deal with the fact that, you know, in many ways inequality in our society has gone way up and equality of opportunity has gone way down. >> i think that's really important. the price of inequality is fantastic. i recommend to everyone watching. some of the things in my own book, which is not written by a nob nobel laureate. actually produces decision function in the institutional crisis and i think this is a great book for people to pick up. >> we learned that miguel cabrera is one of the greatest hitters in the history of baseball, triple crown, the first player in 45 years to lead a league in batting average, home runs and runs batted in. incredible accomplishment. congratulations to miguel cabrera and go tigers. >> all the saber metric heads are tis-tis'ing. my thanks to alexis goldstein, dedrik muhammad, joseph stiglitz, and roy, always great to have you here, adviser for mitt romney. >>> join us tomorrow, sunday morning at 8:00. i'll have congressman peter welch and others. >>> coming up next is melissa harris perry. and an open letter to george will, the columnist who said america will re-elect president obama primarily because we are a nation unwilling to give up on our first black president. melissa has a response. that's melissa harris-perry coming up next. see you tomorrow at 8:00. thanks for getting up.
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